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	<title>Comments on: Hospitals are sonic hellscapes</title>
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		<title>By: Alrenous</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2019/07/hospitals-are-sonic-hellscapes/comment-page-1/#comment-2943993</link>
		<dc:creator>Alrenous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jul 2019 17:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Seems it&#039;s still legal to get a midwife and give birth at home.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems it&#8217;s still legal to get a midwife and give birth at home.</p>
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		<title>By: Alistair</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alistair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jul 2019 11:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On all 3 occasions my wife has given birth, I&#039;ve noticed just how noisy and stressful the wards are. Daytime noise is constant; nights are a bit quieter, but still broken by constant monitoring, crying infants, and distant slamming doors. Hard, washable floors and surfaces don&#039;t help at all. 

On all three occasions my wife&#039;s mental welfare deteriorated sharply after 72 hours of exhausted exposure. This of course, made her a &quot;risk&quot; for even more invasive monitoring and to be kept for additional nights. The self-perpetuating nature of the problem was apparent to everyone but the clinical staff. 

After 5 days, I got her to sign herself out against medical advice. 16 hours later after proper sleep at home she was completely recovered. I&#039;ve not respected doctors since.

Maybe they could give patients ear defenders, but I think the staff are so de-sensitised to the environment they don&#039;t realise how much it is &#039;effing patients up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On all 3 occasions my wife has given birth, I&#8217;ve noticed just how noisy and stressful the wards are. Daytime noise is constant; nights are a bit quieter, but still broken by constant monitoring, crying infants, and distant slamming doors. Hard, washable floors and surfaces don&#8217;t help at all. </p>
<p>On all three occasions my wife&#8217;s mental welfare deteriorated sharply after 72 hours of exhausted exposure. This of course, made her a &#8220;risk&#8221; for even more invasive monitoring and to be kept for additional nights. The self-perpetuating nature of the problem was apparent to everyone but the clinical staff. </p>
<p>After 5 days, I got her to sign herself out against medical advice. 16 hours later after proper sleep at home she was completely recovered. I&#8217;ve not respected doctors since.</p>
<p>Maybe they could give patients ear defenders, but I think the staff are so de-sensitised to the environment they don&#8217;t realise how much it is &#8216;effing patients up.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam J.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jul 2019 05:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I spent some time in the hospital and by the time I got out of there I was utterly exhausted and so angry I couldn&#039;t wait to get away. Waking you up every two hours to stick you for blood, constant bleeping. I suspect people in ICU give up and die to stop the abuse. I&#039;m serious about this. It&#039;s horrible. It&#039;s HAS to completely destroy the immune system to be so angry and stressed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I spent some time in the hospital and by the time I got out of there I was utterly exhausted and so angry I couldn&#8217;t wait to get away. Waking you up every two hours to stick you for blood, constant bleeping. I suspect people in ICU give up and die to stop the abuse. I&#8217;m serious about this. It&#8217;s horrible. It&#8217;s HAS to completely destroy the immune system to be so angry and stressed.</p>
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		<title>By: Alrenous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alrenous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jul 2019 21:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;The legal incentives are such that one has little choice but to favor 1,000 false positives over one false negative.&lt;/blockquote&gt;If the pattern holds from all other instances of legal incentives like this, the outcome is in fact killing vastly more people, like 15x or something, than allowing a few false negative would.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The legal incentives are such that one has little choice but to favor 1,000 false positives over one false negative.</p></blockquote>
<p>If the pattern holds from all other instances of legal incentives like this, the outcome is in fact killing vastly more people, like 15x or something, than allowing a few false negative would.</p>
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		<title>By: Isegoria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Isegoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jul 2019 14:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m sorry to hear that you&#039;ve had to spend so much time in ICUs, Handle. In my few short visits to hospitals, I&#039;ve found the cacophony extremely stressful &#8212; especially when I&#039;ve seen its effect on someone sick, tired, and desperate to get better, but unable to rest.

Come to think of it, they should probably pipe all the audio alerts to a speaker outside the door. It&#039;s not the patient who wants or needs to hear them at full volume.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry to hear that you&#8217;ve had to spend so much time in ICUs, Handle. In my few short visits to hospitals, I&#8217;ve found the cacophony extremely stressful &mdash; especially when I&#8217;ve seen its effect on someone sick, tired, and desperate to get better, but unable to rest.</p>
<p>Come to think of it, they should probably pipe all the audio alerts to a speaker outside the door. It&#8217;s not the patient who wants or needs to hear them at full volume.</p>
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		<title>By: Handle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Handle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jul 2019 13:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve spent months in intensive care units, and yes, the alarms are indeed constant, deafening, annoying, and mostly ignored.  While most people would like to fix that, it&#039;s impossible.  The legal incentives are such that one has little choice but to favor 1,000 false positives over one false negative.  And the kind of positive we&#039;re talking about is quickly fatal, so requires an alarm consonant with the necessary urgency of reaction.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve spent months in intensive care units, and yes, the alarms are indeed constant, deafening, annoying, and mostly ignored.  While most people would like to fix that, it&#8217;s impossible.  The legal incentives are such that one has little choice but to favor 1,000 false positives over one false negative.  And the kind of positive we&#8217;re talking about is quickly fatal, so requires an alarm consonant with the necessary urgency of reaction.</p>
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