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	<title>Comments on: All because they thought they were on ‘roids</title>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2019/07/all-because-they-thought-they-were-on-roids/comment-page-1/#comment-2946165</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jul 2019 04:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a throwback to the good old days when they could do cool experiments and not mind who got hurt.

Steroids help you heal. Telling a guy he&#039;s on steroids is like telling a guy you put a bandage on his cut. When you lie, you endanger him. Maybe he can&#039;t throw a ball anymore the rest of his life because of you, maybe it&#039;s his knees.

I&#039;m not enough of a Meathead-American to care, but if the guys running this study get thumped, that&#039;s why.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a throwback to the good old days when they could do cool experiments and not mind who got hurt.</p>
<p>Steroids help you heal. Telling a guy he&#8217;s on steroids is like telling a guy you put a bandage on his cut. When you lie, you endanger him. Maybe he can&#8217;t throw a ball anymore the rest of his life because of you, maybe it&#8217;s his knees.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not enough of a Meathead-American to care, but if the guys running this study get thumped, that&#8217;s why.</p>
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		<title>By: David Whitewolf</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2019/07/all-because-they-thought-they-were-on-roids/comment-page-1/#comment-2945040</link>
		<dc:creator>David Whitewolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jul 2019 06:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My all-too-limited (I suppose) understanding of what&#039;s alleged is not that it&#039;s akin to a steroid in mechanism, but rather in the (easily identifiable by lay gym bros) effects of faster muscle repair (thus recovery) that one might believe is the &quot;natural&quot; result of greater blood flow to affected tissues; and, most importantly for the astonished discussions, a tremendously increased and long-lasting &quot;pump&quot; -- the effect Arnold, in &quot;Pumping Iron,&quot; facetiously called &quot;better than sex.&quot; 

I can attest that lifting in the morning, and then walking around pumped up *all day long* feeling like your engorged muscles are encased in too-tight sausage skins is... not unpleasant at all. Beyond that, I may be imagining things.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My all-too-limited (I suppose) understanding of what&#8217;s alleged is not that it&#8217;s akin to a steroid in mechanism, but rather in the (easily identifiable by lay gym bros) effects of faster muscle repair (thus recovery) that one might believe is the &#8220;natural&#8221; result of greater blood flow to affected tissues; and, most importantly for the astonished discussions, a tremendously increased and long-lasting &#8220;pump&#8221; &#8212; the effect Arnold, in &#8220;Pumping Iron,&#8221; facetiously called &#8220;better than sex.&#8221; </p>
<p>I can attest that lifting in the morning, and then walking around pumped up *all day long* feeling like your engorged muscles are encased in too-tight sausage skins is&#8230; not unpleasant at all. Beyond that, I may be imagining things.</p>
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		<title>By: Isegoria</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2019/07/all-because-they-thought-they-were-on-roids/comment-page-1/#comment-2944828</link>
		<dc:creator>Isegoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jul 2019 15:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It looks like ED drugs are known to help some people &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.bicycling.com/training/a20045175/viagra-for-a-different-kind-of-performance-enhancement/&quot;&gt;counter the effects of altitude&lt;/a&gt;, but I&#039;m not sure how a vasodilator would be anabolic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks like ED drugs are known to help some people <a href="https://www.bicycling.com/training/a20045175/viagra-for-a-different-kind-of-performance-enhancement/">counter the effects of altitude</a>, but I&#8217;m not sure how a vasodilator would be anabolic.</p>
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		<title>By: Wang Wei Lin</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2019/07/all-because-they-thought-they-were-on-roids/comment-page-1/#comment-2944691</link>
		<dc:creator>Wang Wei Lin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jul 2019 03:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Isegoria recently had another article on placebos. Noting the effectiveness of the placebo effect the conclusion was placebos are a worthwhile palliative medicine. Now evidently a worthwhile weight training supplement.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isegoria recently had another article on placebos. Noting the effectiveness of the placebo effect the conclusion was placebos are a worthwhile palliative medicine. Now evidently a worthwhile weight training supplement.</p>
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		<title>By: David Whitewolf</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2019/07/all-because-they-thought-they-were-on-roids/comment-page-1/#comment-2944655</link>
		<dc:creator>David Whitewolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jul 2019 00:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I recently started lifting again after a 30+-year hiatus. Never have used steroids, but I&#039;ve been stunned with my gains, recovery time, and lack of injury. Sessions feel like they did in high school, which is just bizarre at my age. At first I thought it was diet-related, but now I&#039;m wondering if it&#039;s got more to do with... Cialis.  I avoid bodybuilding forums because much of the advice on there reminds me of the goofier conspiracy theorists, but it&#039;s sure easy to find posts claiming Slide-and-fil and Ta-Da!-La-fill (private joke) are &quot;the new steroids...&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently started lifting again after a 30+-year hiatus. Never have used steroids, but I&#8217;ve been stunned with my gains, recovery time, and lack of injury. Sessions feel like they did in high school, which is just bizarre at my age. At first I thought it was diet-related, but now I&#8217;m wondering if it&#8217;s got more to do with&#8230; Cialis.  I avoid bodybuilding forums because much of the advice on there reminds me of the goofier conspiracy theorists, but it&#8217;s sure easy to find posts claiming Slide-and-fil and Ta-Da!-La-fill (private joke) are &#8220;the new steroids&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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