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		<title>By: CVLR</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2019/06/the-anti-college-is-on-the-rise/comment-page-1/#comment-2881906</link>
		<dc:creator>CVLR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jul 2019 01:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[urban constantinople]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>urban constantinople</p>
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		<title>By: CVLR</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2019/06/the-anti-college-is-on-the-rise/comment-page-1/#comment-2881867</link>
		<dc:creator>CVLR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jul 2019 01:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wang, I think that that’s an uncharitable interpretation. Maybe it’s more like a monastic interlude of solitude, self-reflection, and freedom from technology than it is an indoctrination center for whatever passes as “liberalism” these days.

I would’ve killed to have gone there. Or better yet, any college before all colleges were run by MBAs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wang, I think that that’s an uncharitable interpretation. Maybe it’s more like a monastic interlude of solitude, self-reflection, and freedom from technology than it is an indoctrination center for whatever passes as “liberalism” these days.</p>
<p>I would’ve killed to have gone there. Or better yet, any college before all colleges were run by MBAs.</p>
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		<title>By: CVLR</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2019/06/the-anti-college-is-on-the-rise/comment-page-1/#comment-2881841</link>
		<dc:creator>CVLR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jul 2019 01:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, Kirk, absolutely. I have repeatedly observed the parallels between the eve of the Reformation and now. The similarities are eerie, right down to the paradigm shifts of communications technology: printing press and Internet.

Setting that aside. Just economically, the situation is breathtakingly fragile. Something as simple as a geologically modest solar flare could easily interrupt the JIT food delivery system for weeks or months. If &lt;i&gt;anything&lt;/i&gt; happens to cause the supermarkets to go unsupplied for &lt;i&gt;any&lt;/i&gt; reason, you’re looking at WTF levels of rioting within a week.

If I were any of you, even if I didn’t intend to abandon my urban mecca, I’d stash away some hard-to-reach land and the supplies and self-sustaining ecosystems necessary to keep me going for some undefined length of time. If nothing else, it’s probably a safer life insurance policy than AIG.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Kirk, absolutely. I have repeatedly observed the parallels between the eve of the Reformation and now. The similarities are eerie, right down to the paradigm shifts of communications technology: printing press and Internet.</p>
<p>Setting that aside. Just economically, the situation is breathtakingly fragile. Something as simple as a geologically modest solar flare could easily interrupt the JIT food delivery system for weeks or months. If <i>anything</i> happens to cause the supermarkets to go unsupplied for <i>any</i> reason, you’re looking at WTF levels of rioting within a week.</p>
<p>If I were any of you, even if I didn’t intend to abandon my urban mecca, I’d stash away some hard-to-reach land and the supplies and self-sustaining ecosystems necessary to keep me going for some undefined length of time. If nothing else, it’s probably a safer life insurance policy than AIG.</p>
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		<title>By: Wang Wei Lin</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2019/06/the-anti-college-is-on-the-rise/comment-page-1/#comment-2879257</link>
		<dc:creator>Wang Wei Lin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jul 2019 01:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kirk... Excellent analysis as usual.  Ebola in China would not be handled with kid gloves. The communists would have as usual a brutal response to such an epidemic. 

A global ebola pandemic could have a similar impact as the Bronze Age collapse given the immigrant invasions around the West.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kirk&#8230; Excellent analysis as usual.  Ebola in China would not be handled with kid gloves. The communists would have as usual a brutal response to such an epidemic. </p>
<p>A global ebola pandemic could have a similar impact as the Bronze Age collapse given the immigrant invasions around the West.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jul 2019 02:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Indoctrination happens, no matter what. It&#039;s a question of what the indoctrination consists of, and whether or not it works.

The current indoctrination program we&#039;re following manifestly does not work; I suspect that we&#039;re due for more than a bit of a comeuppance, and that the current dysfunction cannot last.

Last time this happened to this degree was during the period we think of as the transition from the monolithic Church/Aristocracy era of the High Middle Ages into the modern era. The institutions that built up after that have finally managed to corrupt themselves to the same degree that the church was, and have signally started to fail.

Look at the trade in indulgences. Is that really any different from &quot;Carbon Trading&quot;? Is the fervor with which the adherents of the academy pursue their heretics any less?

The whole thing is due for a massive reorganization, and I venture to predict that it will come in this century, maybe even within our lifetimes. The contradictions and contrary facts are too well lined-up, and something will have to give.

I rather suspect that the really big problems are going to accrue about the time the demographic facts of the population crash become brutally apparent, possibly in conjunction with some global-scale pandemic. Possibly man-made, possibly natural--I eye the current Ebola outbreak with a seriously jaundiced eye, wondering if this might be the straw that breaks the camel&#039;s back. If it does break out, and get here to the US, watch the genie of migration go back into the bottle, and the Europeans start up their death camps/transportation programs all over again.

I&#039;ll laugh my ass off if China manages to bring home a pandemic with their colonial program in Africa... Imagine Ebola percolating through those huge conurbations they&#039;ve built, and what the effects will be on that vaunted population of theirs. It&#039;d be darkly ironic if the Chinese went from not caring about how many Chinese they kill to suddenly being scared spitless of any sort of losses.

The world is in for an ugly century or two, and I wonder how well we&#039;ll do, coping with it. Ebola, mini-Ice Age, solar minimum? LOL... Idiots. All of them, internationally and nationally--They should be scared silly by the current outbreak, and should have put global early warning and controls into effect, but what are they actually doing? Expediting the whole damn thing. There are actually refugees in Dallas, right now, who were in the Congo well within the incubation period for this variety of Ebola.

We&#039;re a nation run by idiots, on a planet full of nations run by cretins. It ain&#039;t going to end well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indoctrination happens, no matter what. It&#8217;s a question of what the indoctrination consists of, and whether or not it works.</p>
<p>The current indoctrination program we&#8217;re following manifestly does not work; I suspect that we&#8217;re due for more than a bit of a comeuppance, and that the current dysfunction cannot last.</p>
<p>Last time this happened to this degree was during the period we think of as the transition from the monolithic Church/Aristocracy era of the High Middle Ages into the modern era. The institutions that built up after that have finally managed to corrupt themselves to the same degree that the church was, and have signally started to fail.</p>
<p>Look at the trade in indulgences. Is that really any different from &#8220;Carbon Trading&#8221;? Is the fervor with which the adherents of the academy pursue their heretics any less?</p>
<p>The whole thing is due for a massive reorganization, and I venture to predict that it will come in this century, maybe even within our lifetimes. The contradictions and contrary facts are too well lined-up, and something will have to give.</p>
<p>I rather suspect that the really big problems are going to accrue about the time the demographic facts of the population crash become brutally apparent, possibly in conjunction with some global-scale pandemic. Possibly man-made, possibly natural&#8211;I eye the current Ebola outbreak with a seriously jaundiced eye, wondering if this might be the straw that breaks the camel&#8217;s back. If it does break out, and get here to the US, watch the genie of migration go back into the bottle, and the Europeans start up their death camps/transportation programs all over again.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll laugh my ass off if China manages to bring home a pandemic with their colonial program in Africa&#8230; Imagine Ebola percolating through those huge conurbations they&#8217;ve built, and what the effects will be on that vaunted population of theirs. It&#8217;d be darkly ironic if the Chinese went from not caring about how many Chinese they kill to suddenly being scared spitless of any sort of losses.</p>
<p>The world is in for an ugly century or two, and I wonder how well we&#8217;ll do, coping with it. Ebola, mini-Ice Age, solar minimum? LOL&#8230; Idiots. All of them, internationally and nationally&#8211;They should be scared silly by the current outbreak, and should have put global early warning and controls into effect, but what are they actually doing? Expediting the whole damn thing. There are actually refugees in Dallas, right now, who were in the Congo well within the incubation period for this variety of Ebola.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re a nation run by idiots, on a planet full of nations run by cretins. It ain&#8217;t going to end well.</p>
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		<title>By: Wang Wei Lin</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2019/06/the-anti-college-is-on-the-rise/comment-page-1/#comment-2876377</link>
		<dc:creator>Wang Wei Lin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jul 2019 01:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sounds like Mao&#039;s down to the coutryside program. Manual labor and indoctrination albeit with a western liberal flavor.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like Mao&#8217;s down to the coutryside program. Manual labor and indoctrination albeit with a western liberal flavor.</p>
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		<title>By: Felix</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2019/06/the-anti-college-is-on-the-rise/comment-page-1/#comment-2875457</link>
		<dc:creator>Felix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jul 2019 00:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s a huge girder holding up the bubble in higher education as it is practiced now: Government jobs. They can require and explicitly pay for credentials.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a huge girder holding up the bubble in higher education as it is practiced now: Government jobs. They can require and explicitly pay for credentials.</p>
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		<title>By: CVLR</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2019/06/the-anti-college-is-on-the-rise/comment-page-1/#comment-2874579</link>
		<dc:creator>CVLR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jun 2019 22:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Deep Springs, unfortunately, started admitting women. Granted, it was the logical next step, after it had become entirely diverse.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deep Springs, unfortunately, started admitting women. Granted, it was the logical next step, after it had become entirely diverse.</p>
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		<title>By: CVLR</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2019/06/the-anti-college-is-on-the-rise/comment-page-1/#comment-2874534</link>
		<dc:creator>CVLR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jun 2019 22:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To paraphrase Kirk, legitimacy is worth a lot. And it’s one of those things... you lose a little at first, and then all at once.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To paraphrase Kirk, legitimacy is worth a lot. And it’s one of those things&#8230; you lose a little at first, and then all at once.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2019/06/the-anti-college-is-on-the-rise/comment-page-1/#comment-2873389</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jun 2019 17:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The current model of &quot;higher education&quot; cannot last; it&#039;s too inefficient, and the products coming out of the system are intellectually deficient and defective.

So, once enough evidence builds up that your diplomas aren&#039;t worth the paper they&#039;re printed on, then something else will arise. What? Wouldn&#039;t venture to predict, but I honestly believe that we&#039;re at the beginning stages of the whole thing rendering itself essentially irrelevant. The contradictions are simply adding up, and once they reach the point where the consensus is that a college degree is of no value, well... It&#039;ll go on to be a quaint residual thing, kept up for the tradition of it all. You&#039;ll still have Oxford and the like, but they&#039;ll be irrelevant to most people.

You can see the outlines of all this starting, with Macron&#039;s attempt to break France free from the tyranny of the &lt;i&gt;Grandes Ecoles&lt;/i&gt;. It&#039;s only going to accelerate the more vapid stupidity these institutions produce. 57 genders, my ass...

You spend some time rooting through the modern academy&#039;s work product, and you suddenly start to see a certain sense to the ideas of Pol Pot, developing the desire to put some of them into effect.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The current model of &#8220;higher education&#8221; cannot last; it&#8217;s too inefficient, and the products coming out of the system are intellectually deficient and defective.</p>
<p>So, once enough evidence builds up that your diplomas aren&#8217;t worth the paper they&#8217;re printed on, then something else will arise. What? Wouldn&#8217;t venture to predict, but I honestly believe that we&#8217;re at the beginning stages of the whole thing rendering itself essentially irrelevant. The contradictions are simply adding up, and once they reach the point where the consensus is that a college degree is of no value, well&#8230; It&#8217;ll go on to be a quaint residual thing, kept up for the tradition of it all. You&#8217;ll still have Oxford and the like, but they&#8217;ll be irrelevant to most people.</p>
<p>You can see the outlines of all this starting, with Macron&#8217;s attempt to break France free from the tyranny of the <i>Grandes Ecoles</i>. It&#8217;s only going to accelerate the more vapid stupidity these institutions produce. 57 genders, my ass&#8230;</p>
<p>You spend some time rooting through the modern academy&#8217;s work product, and you suddenly start to see a certain sense to the ideas of Pol Pot, developing the desire to put some of them into effect.</p>
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