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	<title>Comments on: Consumption of wine was inversely associated with the risk of common cold</title>
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		<title>By: Sam J.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Apr 2019 00:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe the wine group are snobs and don&#039;t go out much with the louts to get the flu in the first place.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe the wine group are snobs and don&#8217;t go out much with the louts to get the flu in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: Adar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Apr 2019 17:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A glass of wine given to a patient who just has come out of anesthetic after a surgery for open heart procedure can sooth and calm marvelously so if the patient used to drinking wine on a regular basis.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A glass of wine given to a patient who just has come out of anesthetic after a surgery for open heart procedure can sooth and calm marvelously so if the patient used to drinking wine on a regular basis.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Apr 2019 02:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, unless there is a LOT more than meets the eye, this seems like a particularly stupid example of the type.

Meta analysis is one thing. Though Kirk identified some of the basic problems with it when presented as a primary scientific endeavour, there&#039;s room for scholarship as well as science in the pure theoretical and experimental senses.

But this sounds like garbage in, garbage out. I need some wine.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, unless there is a LOT more than meets the eye, this seems like a particularly stupid example of the type.</p>
<p>Meta analysis is one thing. Though Kirk identified some of the basic problems with it when presented as a primary scientific endeavour, there&#8217;s room for scholarship as well as science in the pure theoretical and experimental senses.</p>
<p>But this sounds like garbage in, garbage out. I need some wine.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Apr 2019 20:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK, yet again we see statistical BS sifted out of survey BS.

What they actually mean here is that survey respondents &lt;i&gt;reported&lt;/i&gt; data that makes it seem as though there is a correlation between wine consumption and resistance/exposure to cold viruses. We don&#039;t know for a fact that those self-reported wine drinkers actually drank any wine, any more than we know that they were exposed to similar contagion vectors for the colds in question.

This is a really badly constructed study that actually tells you precisely jack and s**t about whether or not wine helps with your resistance. You would have to have carefully constructed your test participation pool, ensured that they all actually consumed like amounts of alcoholic beverages, and then were a.) in generally similar good immunological health, and b.) were exposed to the same precise vectors of the same rhinoviruses.

None of that was done, so far as I can tell, so this is more statistical flummery thrown up as &quot;news&quot; by the academics, and then reported by the scientifically illiterate news media.

Anything to be learned from this crap is lost in the noise coming from a poorly constructed test methodology, and sheer stupidity.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, yet again we see statistical BS sifted out of survey BS.</p>
<p>What they actually mean here is that survey respondents <i>reported</i> data that makes it seem as though there is a correlation between wine consumption and resistance/exposure to cold viruses. We don&#8217;t know for a fact that those self-reported wine drinkers actually drank any wine, any more than we know that they were exposed to similar contagion vectors for the colds in question.</p>
<p>This is a really badly constructed study that actually tells you precisely jack and s**t about whether or not wine helps with your resistance. You would have to have carefully constructed your test participation pool, ensured that they all actually consumed like amounts of alcoholic beverages, and then were a.) in generally similar good immunological health, and b.) were exposed to the same precise vectors of the same rhinoviruses.</p>
<p>None of that was done, so far as I can tell, so this is more statistical flummery thrown up as &#8220;news&#8221; by the academics, and then reported by the scientifically illiterate news media.</p>
<p>Anything to be learned from this crap is lost in the noise coming from a poorly constructed test methodology, and sheer stupidity.</p>
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