Comments on: The barbarian invaders had one thing the civilized Incas did not https://www.isegoria.net/2019/01/the-barbarian-invaders-had-one-thing-the-civilized-incas-did-not/ From the ancient Greek for equality in freedom of speech; an eclectic mix of thoughts, large and small Thu, 21 May 2026 16:19:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.6.1 By: Bruce https://www.isegoria.net/2019/01/the-barbarian-invaders-had-one-thing-the-civilized-incas-did-not/comment-page-1/#comment-3026010 Bruce Mon, 06 Jan 2020 07:28:55 +0000 https://www.isegoria.net/?p=44363#comment-3026010 Obsidian glass was better than chert in the stone age for cutting tools. Well worth trading or raiding, whether from Aztecs or Minoans.

Minoans had a big trading society across the Med to trade obsidian glass. At around the time their trading society was blown apart by Thera, iron from what is now Bulgaria spread around. Or bronze did. Or the times don’t match up at all. I don’t know. I’d like to see this studied extensively, but it won’t be because boys like Ax stuff, whether obsidian or iron. Today’s archaeologists get the heebie jeebies about stuff boys like.

]]> By: CVLR https://www.isegoria.net/2019/01/the-barbarian-invaders-had-one-thing-the-civilized-incas-did-not/comment-page-1/#comment-3025942 CVLR Sun, 05 Jan 2020 19:08:48 +0000 https://www.isegoria.net/?p=44363#comment-3025942 Yeah, okay.

Why is obsidian glass important in this context?

What is the relationship between obsidian glass, this time period, and then-Bulgarians’ iron tools?

What about this juxtaposition gives archaeologists the heebie jeebies?

]]> By: Bruce https://www.isegoria.net/2019/01/the-barbarian-invaders-had-one-thing-the-civilized-incas-did-not/comment-page-1/#comment-3025900 Bruce Sun, 05 Jan 2020 06:56:20 +0000 https://www.isegoria.net/?p=44363#comment-3025900 CVLR,

One implication is I’m a dummy who should have started my post with:

Sam J, ‘the deciding factor, between Europe the the Americas civilization was iron tools’.

]]> By: CVLR https://www.isegoria.net/2019/01/the-barbarian-invaders-had-one-thing-the-civilized-incas-did-not/comment-page-1/#comment-3025813 CVLR Sat, 04 Jan 2020 18:29:32 +0000 https://www.isegoria.net/?p=44363#comment-3025813 Bruce, please explain the implications of your comment for dummies like me.

]]> By: CVLR https://www.isegoria.net/2019/01/the-barbarian-invaders-had-one-thing-the-civilized-incas-did-not/comment-page-1/#comment-3025811 CVLR Sat, 04 Jan 2020 18:28:03 +0000 https://www.isegoria.net/?p=44363#comment-3025811 Buckethead,

Your summary of Killing Star sounds like it could’ve been lifted directly from The Dark Forest. Are you suggesting that Chinaman Liu Cixin merely copied and elaborated a pre-existing idea?

More seriously, does anyone know the origin of this science fiction ethos? I’m willing to bet it doesn’t pre-date 1970, but I don’t know how or why.

]]> By: Bruce https://www.isegoria.net/2019/01/the-barbarian-invaders-had-one-thing-the-civilized-incas-did-not/comment-page-1/#comment-3025804 Bruce Sat, 04 Jan 2020 18:06:32 +0000 https://www.isegoria.net/?p=44363#comment-3025804 Before Thera blew, the Minoans sold obsidian glass all around the Med. At some point the volcano objected and at around the same point people in what’s now Bulgaria had iron tools. It would be nice if archeologists would lose their fear of boy cooties long enough to nail down these points.

]]> By: Sam J. https://www.isegoria.net/2019/01/the-barbarian-invaders-had-one-thing-the-civilized-incas-did-not/comment-page-1/#comment-3025731 Sam J. Sat, 04 Jan 2020 13:31:34 +0000 https://www.isegoria.net/?p=44363#comment-3025731 I think it reasonable to point out that the BIG difference, the deciding factor, between Europe and the Americas civilization was Iron tools. From iron tools much, much springs. It would also be reasonable to point out that it’s possible that iron processing was accidental or the product of a few odd individuals who then passed it along.

]]> By: Sam J. https://www.isegoria.net/2019/01/the-barbarian-invaders-had-one-thing-the-civilized-incas-did-not/comment-page-1/#comment-3025726 Sam J. Sat, 04 Jan 2020 13:19:45 +0000 https://www.isegoria.net/?p=44363#comment-3025726 Oops “…look at building 7…”

]]> By: Sam J. https://www.isegoria.net/2019/01/the-barbarian-invaders-had-one-thing-the-civilized-incas-did-not/comment-page-1/#comment-3025725 Sam J. Sat, 04 Jan 2020 13:15:23 +0000 https://www.isegoria.net/?p=44363#comment-3025725 “…The idea the ecosystem is spectacularly dangerous and we need to camouflage is one option…”

I can see that as being a very big possibility.

I’m not sure he’s not an agent of some sort feeding us lies but there’s a Plasma physicist Dr John Brandenburg Mars that used gamma ray spectrometry data from Mars to say that Mars was nuked by massive possibly over 100 megaton nukes and that the oceans and civilization of Mars was murdered.

https://sciencevibe.com/2017/05/23/was-mars-like-earth-before-it-was-nuked-scientist-says-yes/

His evidence is logical. There’s isotopes that shouldn’t be there unless there was an atomic reaction but the powers that be are liars. It’s possible he’s just another foil to convince us aliens are real so they can foist one world government on us when they land their CRISPR modded humans in inertia drive craft to fake us out.

If they can blow up our buildings, look at building &, in the middle of our cities then it’s not so far removed that they could do this also.

]]> By: Graham https://www.isegoria.net/2019/01/the-barbarian-invaders-had-one-thing-the-civilized-incas-did-not/comment-page-1/#comment-2732124 Graham Fri, 25 Jan 2019 00:00:17 +0000 https://www.isegoria.net/?p=44363#comment-2732124 There’s a way out if you master creating a pocket universe around your civilization. Fill it with casinos and theme parks but remember to wire the entrance with whatever a spacetime anomaly considers explosives.

My plan, long term…

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