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		<title>By: Gaikokumaniakku</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2018/11/do-the-rich-capture-all-the-gains-from-economic-growth/comment-page-1/#comment-2701195</link>
		<dc:creator>Gaikokumaniakku</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2018 12:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Felix:

Many of the elites are psychopaths. They are not rational in the way that normal people are.

https://www.businessinsider.com/professions-with-the-most-psychopaths-2018-5]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Felix:</p>
<p>Many of the elites are psychopaths. They are not rational in the way that normal people are.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/professions-with-the-most-psychopaths-2018-5" >https://www.businessinsider.com/professions-with-the-most-psychopaths-2018-5</a></p>
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		<title>By: Albion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Albion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2018 09:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The problem for economics is it isn’t divorced from the world it lives in. While marine biologists study plankton they only occasionally swim in the sea, but economists are mindful everyday of the factors that affect their income. In other words, economists have living standards too and feel bites and surges just as much as everyone else. Does this colour vision and reasoning? Possibly.

As for importing low-paid workers to displace the existing workforce isn’t about economics. It is to gather votes, and votes keeps the jobs going for the elite. Their economics are about the money they are paid and what they can buy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem for economics is it isn’t divorced from the world it lives in. While marine biologists study plankton they only occasionally swim in the sea, but economists are mindful everyday of the factors that affect their income. In other words, economists have living standards too and feel bites and surges just as much as everyone else. Does this colour vision and reasoning? Possibly.</p>
<p>As for importing low-paid workers to displace the existing workforce isn’t about economics. It is to gather votes, and votes keeps the jobs going for the elite. Their economics are about the money they are paid and what they can buy.</p>
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		<title>By: Felix</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2018/11/do-the-rich-capture-all-the-gains-from-economic-growth/comment-page-1/#comment-2701033</link>
		<dc:creator>Felix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2018 02:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hold on here.

The article posted gives reasons why one of the statistical supports behind the story that Bob so clearly states - is bogus. And Bob leads off with a slight variant of those bogus statistics. And doesn&#039;t even mention, let alone address, the article&#039;s points!

I&#039;ve noticed the same thing Russ Roberts wrote about. (among other problems with those stats) So, when in his first two paragraphs, Bob acknowledges he, himself, is fooled by lying statistics, I question the rest of Bob&#039;s story.

@Gaikokumaniakku - Because if there&#039;s anything elites don&#039;t want it&#039;s high profit, high wage, high tax revenue bases?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hold on here.</p>
<p>The article posted gives reasons why one of the statistical supports behind the story that Bob so clearly states &#8211; is bogus. And Bob leads off with a slight variant of those bogus statistics. And doesn&#8217;t even mention, let alone address, the article&#8217;s points!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve noticed the same thing Russ Roberts wrote about. (among other problems with those stats) So, when in his first two paragraphs, Bob acknowledges he, himself, is fooled by lying statistics, I question the rest of Bob&#8217;s story.</p>
<p>@Gaikokumaniakku &#8211; Because if there&#8217;s anything elites don&#8217;t want it&#8217;s high profit, high wage, high tax revenue bases?</p>
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		<title>By: Sam J.</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2018/11/do-the-rich-capture-all-the-gains-from-economic-growth/comment-page-1/#comment-2700992</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2018 23:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bob Sykes is right. The fix is in.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob Sykes is right. The fix is in.</p>
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		<title>By: Gaikokumaniakku</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gaikokumaniakku</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2018 22:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with Bob Sykes: The elites have imposed policies that shut down America’s high profit, high wage, high tax revenue industrial base. I don&#039;t have a formal sample, but I have a huge body of anecdata.

Collecting data on the former middle class is hard because when you start out middle class and fall into the lower class, you don&#039;t really want to share your experiences with random strangers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Bob Sykes: The elites have imposed policies that shut down America’s high profit, high wage, high tax revenue industrial base. I don&#8217;t have a formal sample, but I have a huge body of anecdata.</p>
<p>Collecting data on the former middle class is hard because when you start out middle class and fall into the lower class, you don&#8217;t really want to share your experiences with random strangers.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Sykes</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2018/11/do-the-rich-capture-all-the-gains-from-economic-growth/comment-page-1/#comment-2700816</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Sykes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2018 13:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The median income hides the results. The data show that working class people have actually lost real income over the last 40 years; middle class incomes have stagnated; and upper class incomes have soared.

Not only have the rich captured all the economic growth of the last 40 years, they have clawed income away from the working class.

This is really not surprising; it follows from Econ 101. The elites have imposed policies that shut down America&#039;s high profit, high wage, high tax revenue industrial base. They have done this via free trade and off-shoring and regulation. They have also supported mass immigration of uneducated, unskilled peasants, both legal and illegal, who compete directly with the working class.

The elites also support H1B visas that allow low wage Indians and Chinese immigrants to displace native America skilled workers.

This is class warfare writ large.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The median income hides the results. The data show that working class people have actually lost real income over the last 40 years; middle class incomes have stagnated; and upper class incomes have soared.</p>
<p>Not only have the rich captured all the economic growth of the last 40 years, they have clawed income away from the working class.</p>
<p>This is really not surprising; it follows from Econ 101. The elites have imposed policies that shut down America&#8217;s high profit, high wage, high tax revenue industrial base. They have done this via free trade and off-shoring and regulation. They have also supported mass immigration of uneducated, unskilled peasants, both legal and illegal, who compete directly with the working class.</p>
<p>The elites also support H1B visas that allow low wage Indians and Chinese immigrants to displace native America skilled workers.</p>
<p>This is class warfare writ large.</p>
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