That is what I mean by clientele. Voting clientele. Money is extracted from other people via the clientele voting power, but even money is secondary.

When you have a culture there is not any need for a conspiracy. Marxism drives on its own. There is no individual, only groups, split between oppressors and victims.

“Tell me again, the wonders of the liberal worldview, and what it accomplishes…?”

First of all, there is nothing liberal about them. No wonder most Americans can’t fight them. They don’t understand them, they can’t even name them.

A Marxist couldn’t care less if things work or don’t work; it is secondary. What matters is the power they can get in society by constantly shifting where the fundamental oppressor-victim narrative complex lives on to be exploited. You could look at them as priests always finding new demons and necessary sacrifices.

Power over others is what a Marxist wants. And they get it by being always on the stage. All others things are secondary.

Example: they don’t care about poverty, the poor is, like you said, a tool to manufacture oppressors and extract power from them.

This is the best text I’ve in US media about the Left.

And, they wonder why the Han Chinese are such conformists…

I’m kinda wondering how the Chinese are going to do, colonizing Africa. I can see a whole lotta “‘nlightenment” coming to the dark continent, and a bunch of mass graves getting filled. Remains to be seen if the Chinese are any more successful than the Europeans–I strongly suspect that the Chinese are going to make the Belgians look like pikers, before it’s all over.

Then again, the Chinese have never had to deal with the issues of Africa, either–One way or another, it’s gonna be entertaining. So long as you’re on another continent, and viewing the whole thing at a remove. I suspect that being up close and personal is gonna be rough.

One does wonder how the Chinese are going to view the whole deal in South Africa, when it comes to appropriating the farms of the whites.

If I were the Boers, right now? I’d be cozying up to the Chinese, and pointing out that the establishment of such a precedent can’t be good for their African plans.

Of course, on the other hand, were the Boers of a similar mind to the Chinese, there probably wouldn’t have been any native Africans left to expropriate their lands from them in the 21st Century.

One does wonder if the Africans in South Africa realize the lesson they’re teaching the colonizers of the future: “Don’t leave any residual populations to cause trouble, later on…”. Call it the “Lesson of the Boers”, and look to see the Chinese pay careful attention to it…

Consider this Chinese “selection” pressure. Under the “Nine Familial Exterminations” for serious misbehavior the state would execute:

1. The criminal’s parents
2. The criminal’s grandparents
3. The criminal’s children and their spouses
4. The criminal’s grandchildren and their spouses
5. The criminal’s siblings and siblings-in-law
6. The criminal’s aunts and uncles and their spouses
7. The criminal’s cousins
8. The criminal’s spouse
9. The criminal’s spouse’s parents
10.The criminal himself

That is some serious Chinese genetic pruning.

What good does it do to build a clientele among the class that they’re “doing good” for? It’s not like you can either tax them, or squeeze much money out of them in other ways.

What I think “they” are doing is using them as a tool–Whether knowingly or not. Look at the long march through the institutions, which I have to include the mental health and law enforcement realms in, and tell me: Could they have done more damage, with a conspiratorial plan to make the rest of us suffer, dealing with the mentally deficient, crazed, and criminal?

I’m not a big fan of conspiracy theories, but when I look at the changes wrought by our oh-so-caring social elites since the WWII era, I really have to wonder. Nearly everything they’ve done has resulted in disaster–I’m paying taxes to build and maintain parks I can’t walk in during the day, let alone at night. I have the mentally ill defecating on city streets, littering the place with contaminated needles, and the homeless starting fires in their camps that nearly burn out my entire town. Tell me again, the wonders of the liberal worldview, and what it accomplishes…?

The worm is going to turn, the pendulum will make a backswing, and my guess is that all these facially-tattooed freaks who won’t work to support themselves are going to find that the “rest of us” have quite lost patience with their shenanigans. Result? Probably pogroms, and mass graves filled with the social detritus created by the liberal policies we see falling apart around us.

Chicago alone had over 50+ people shot this last weekend, and Monday ain’t even here, yet… How long are the “rest of us” going to put up with this shit?

That is not what they do. They could care less for them. It is just building a clientele.

Take a look at a map, sometime, and examine the spread of “advanced civilization”. The last places that it’s hit in this world of ours have been the same places you’re naming–Sub-Saharan Africa, Indonesia, and the Asian hinterlands.

Then, note precisely which populations have been successful, like the Jews and Chinese. Strangely enough, the most successful populations playing the game of civilization have been the ones doing it the longest… And, who had the the most complex versions of civilization. China, regardless of Confucianism, has always had to have a population conducive to long-term planning and cooperation, or the cultivation of rice wouldn’t have been as successful for them as it has been. Does it shock and surprise you that the people who built all those complex paddy systems came up with Confucian bureaucracy, and all the rest? Similarly, the Japanese–Look at the complexity of their rice cultivation, and everything else that affected in their culture. Confucianism may be just a symptom, but the key thing there is the complexity of the supporting civilization and the cooperation forced on it by the agricultural techniques they utilized.

My point about adaptation remains; the last regions of the European continent to “get civilized”, in terms of complex technology and politics were the same people who were bywords for lawlessness and fecklessness for centuries. Take a long, hard look at how the Irish and Scots were viewed, and then speculate why that changed starting back in the 17th and 18th Century. The levels of interpersonal violence in the Scots-Irish populations that the English didn’t cull, and sent to the Americas? Oddly congruent with the levels we find today in black society here in the US. Why is this? Is it perhaps because there are similarities, in terms of exposure to civilization and/or the culling of the violent from the population?

Something sure as hell changed–Scots-Irish groups had excessively high rates of violence, compared to other European ethnic groups. Then, starting about the 19th Century, that level of violence started going down, and now they are at pretty much the same level as the rest of Europe. Similar things can be observed in Eastern Europe–Notably surrounding the Baltic Sea. Finland, to this day, has a reputation for greater violence than the rest of Scandinavia, and… It has been exposed to the dubious benefits of civilization for the least amount of time. It’s almost like there is something… Civilizing, about civilization. How… Odd.

A lot of our problems stem from a failure to enforce standards, and making excuses for these marginal populations. Were the culling process more certain, and rigorously enforced…? A lot of these violent young men would never have been born into a civilization they simply aren’t adapted to. But, our generous proggie overlords insist on being “humane” to individuals, creating cruelty for the rest of us who have to live in a world populated with their enabled predators. Until we tire of it, anyway…

Have you ever looked at what the hell those so-called “education experts” are actually, y’know… Doing?

None of it is what any semi-experienced military trainer would be doing in those classrooms. Most of those jackasses can’t even maintain normal discipline in those “learning areas”; is it any wonder that the kids don’t learn?

You want to see what works with a lot of black kids, don’t look at what BS comes out of the theorist’s mouths–Look at what works, and what gets practical results. Many of my black peers as NCOs in the Army were excellent trainers, but they emphatically did not follow the “rules” as laid out by the educational theorists infesting our educational systems. Those guys were strict no-nonsense disciplinarians who occasionally resorted to physical intervention to gain control over their students–And, they got excellent results.

One of those guys I’m thinking of retired, and went into teaching for a few years. What I learned from talking to him was that the whole program that the schools where he’d worked was geared towards coddling and excusing the bad behavior of the black students; he himself got into trouble for being “too strict”, and his take on the root issues were that the schools needed to be run like boot camp or a prison, when dealing with young black males who had poor or no socialization. What worked for us, getting results from those kids in the Army, was not allowed in the schools–With predictable results.

Most of the crap that would actually, y’know, work? Outlawed and no longer possible in the schools. The techniques of teaching a lot of these kids, who have never been given structure or any kind of real discipline, would involve pulling them out of their entire dysfunctional environment, and then doing what they do in the military to inculcate new, productive behaviors. Basically, we’re talking about the necessity to destroy the existing behavioral complexes, and then build up new ones through total control of the environment. And, then, not let them back into the dysfunctional environment to relapse.

There are ways to teach these kids, but the rest of society will not actually bother to do anything that might actually work, because that’s just insensitive and uncaring. Kinda the way it’s better to have the mentally deficient and dysfunctional dying of exposure on city streets, instead of institutionalizing them.

One of these days, the proggies are going to have to pay the piper for all the bullshit they’ve foisted off on the rest of us, all these years. When that day comes? The “humanitarians” are going to be out there on hands and knees, cleaning human shit off the streets–Because, in the final analysis, they’re the reason it is there. Same with the inner-city blacks–The proggies have created the conditions, and they’re eventually going to be held accountable, by what few functional black communities there are left when the worm turns. ‘Twon’t be pretty, either.

attempt to overcome them through changes to what we’re doing in the schools

Good heavens, what a radical new idea. In case you haven’t noticed, this horse has been beaten into a pulp for the last forty or fifty years. Ask Education Realist for details.

Blacks admitted to the US military must pass a qualification test which is essentially a disguised IQ test which filters out those below a certain IQ. Also blacks in the US military will be discharged if they cannot perform their duties. The psychometric data on US blacks consists of hundreds of IQ studies going back a hundred years and they consistently show about a one standard deviation difference in average IQ between whites and blacks.

Now note this certainly doesn’t mean that there are not intelligent blacks. Assuming an average black IQ of 85 and a standard deviation of IQ of 15 and about 40 million US blacks one can estimate that there are about 5 million US blacks with IQ’s above the average US white.

The Hmong population you refer to is genetically very different from Han Chinese. Also Confucius had very little influence on Japan yet the Japanese show an average IQ of about 107. The Japanese population is much closer genetically to the Han than are Hmong. Of course only an infinitesimal part of the population of China in its history were Confucian scholars. The number of exam takers was far too insignificant a part of the huge Chinese population to have any significant genetic effect.

All over the world where individuals from Northeast Asia have emigrated they have risen over time to the top of the social-economic hierarchy. In Jamaica about a thousand illiterate Hakka peasants arrived in the late 19th century to work as indentured laborers in the sugar plantations. They arrived with the clothes on their backs and the sum total of their other worldly property in a cloth sack.

By the time of the anti-Chinese riots (around 1960 I think) their descendants (still a tiny percentage of the Jamaican population) controlled more than 90% of the retail establishments in Jamaican. Their level of education was higher even that that of Jamaican whites. But I doubt that they knew anything more about Confucius than white Jamaicans.

This same pattern repeats all over the world. Several years ago I recall reading that about a third of the graduate students at Sao Paulo University (the Harvard of Brazil) were Japanese-Brazilians. The Chinese minority in Indonesia which has repeatedly endured violent persecution (100,000 killed in one such episode) owns about three quarters of the wealth of Indonesia.

On the contrary all over the world wherever there are significant populations of individuals of Sub-Saharan African descent these populations are usually at the bottom of the social-economic hierarchy.