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The second is that reading David Irvings books on Hitler and Goering both emphasized that Goering told Hilter that he could deliver so many tons of supplies by air when he KNEW he could not. He just refused to take the heat for his incompetence, Hitler was in awe of Goring and took his word for it. This would account for the loss at Stalingrad and Hitlers insistence on staying there. If he would have known that he would never have enough supplies he might have withdrawn in good shape.

Another thing Hitler could have done was to take the oil in the middle east and attack Gibraltar making the Med. a German lake. It would have doomed the USSR but slower. I think Hitler wanted a knock out. One last change in history if he could have had less trouble in Greece he could have attacked before the weather turned bad in Russia. He might have been able to prevail.

This all happened in 1943 from June to September according to John Toland in his magnum opus ‘Adolf Hitler’, page 750-752.

Kirk do you know that one of less anti-semitic – even with Fascist racial law of 1938 – countries in WW2 was in the Axis side: Italy

And that Italy does not have the word Jew, But Ebrei=Hebraic , does a simple word might carry such weight?

But i think it is much deeper and instead have to do with this:

I am not like most people. Most people are upset that they are not accepted into a club whatever it is.
Me, i am upset that people want to force me to belong to a club.
I am upset that my government forces me to be socialist.

Today, the whites(and males) are the Jews for the same socialistic reason: non conformable to socialism…
Marx was an anti-semitic and it is very interesting why he wanted that Jews disappeared from face of earth: Because they did not conformed that was a threat to Socialism and equality.
That is the problem with nationalism it is most of time socialism because it is not made willingly but enforced.

Yes, polonization in Volyn has been going on since the XVI century (i.a., Ukrainian schlachta didn’t have the same privileges as Polish (Catholic) schlachta, and that’s partly what got you 1648; if you’d kept your promises, maybe Poland wouldn’t have suffered the three partitions.) Does that somehow make it better than if it had started just in XX century? You people had even renamed Western Ukraine “Eastern Small-Poland” after WWI, cf. Pacyfikacja Malopolski Wschodniej, and you have the gall to say that you’re somehow better than us or Russians for that matter? Pfui! Get off your high horse!

Stolfi was a Ph.D.-level historian (Stanford) and had access to the German archives of WW2. Stolfi was bilingual as his mother was Prussian. He also was trained as an engineer and attacks his subject with an engineers organization of the topic. Separate chapters explain for example the logistics, the plan, Hitler’s prime mistake, why Moscow had to be captured (Schwerpunkt), and the scenario had the plan been followed.

It is an astounding analysis. The war was won by the Germans by the end of July 1941 and then lost the next day, August 1, by not driving for Moscow and instead diverting to the Ukraine as per Hitler’s orders. The leading Army officers ranked from number 2 through 1001 all signed a letter to Hitler urging him to make the attack to take Moscow as per the original plan.

“> UPA, enforced with deserters from the Ukrainian auxiliary police who just had gained experience in mass murders while conducting Holocaust, was very busy with genocide of Poles
No people of Eastern Europe has its hands clean on the Jewish issue. There were Ukrainian collaborators in the Holocaust, just as there were Polish and Belorussian collaborators. Others refused to collaborate or helped Jews out. UPA had Jew members – here’s a Jew writing about this for other Jews (in Russian).”

I was stating the facts explaining where UPA got the know-how of genocide from. The know-how was brought from the apprenticeship of Ukrainian policemen in the service of Nazi Germany.
You immediately want into non-relevant, Soviet-like what-aboutism (more about your cultural connections later).

“As for UPA making war on the Poles, both feeling and action was mutual – Armija Krajowa was just as bad as UPA, though it got better press because they were useful to the Allies – but have you ever wondered why there were so many Poles in Volyn? The Poles don’t like to talk about it much these days, but the answer is that the interwar Polish government had an official policy of polonization and settlement in the region and i.a. gave its WWI veterans the best land there that had been confiscated from Russian Empire nobility.”

UPA was a military wing of a fascist OUN. OUN already before the war was planning a genocide of Poles (work of Mikhailo Kolodynski). The IIWW gave them the opportunity and Ukrainian deserters from the auxiliary police brought the know-how.

Armia Krajowa (AK/Home Army) gathered people from the left to the right of the pre-war Poland’s political spectrum and was the underground arm of the Polish government in exile.

So, what’s your question about the difference between UPA and AK?

Poles in Volhynia – for your information, Volhynia joined of Kingdom of Poland in 1569 when it was given by Zygmunt II August, King of Poland, who had the hereditary right as Grand Duke Lithuania to do whatever he wanted with that piece of land. That piece of land was in Kingdom of Poland till partitions (roughly 200 years) so nothing surprising that some Poles moved to that place, pretty empty at that time as it was exposed to constant Crimean Tatar incursions. Some of the Poles were actually settled there by the local, Ruthenian nobility.
You brought up the Russian Empire – good choice, as it was that state that started the program of depolonization of Volhynia, closing Roman Catholic churches, confiscating Polish property and settling other nationalities, like Czechs (the latter were not spared from UPA primary/favorite activity – murder of civilians).

“The land in Poland proper is not good for much besides potatoes and strawberries.”

Enough to get GDP per capita 4 or 5 times higher than in Ukraine.

Now about your cultural connections. You are a good example of what I have been saying about Ukrainians for years: no difference vs Russians. Both enemies of Poland, both lying through teeth about crimes against Poles (Russians – Katyn, Ukrainians – Volhynian genocide). Truly bandit brethren from Ruskiy Mir. The more and bloodier you fight against each other the better.

I am looking forward to the next round of war in Donbas – popcorn is ready.

Most Americans simply don’t understand the reason for the visceral hatred of the Jews across Central Europe, and why things went the way they did with regards to them.

First thing you have to understand is that the Jew was used by the various aristocracies as convenient cut-outs for their financial interests. Those aristocrats could not be seen to soil themselves with commerce, so they hired the Jews as intermediaries and cut-outs. The face that the peasant saw, when it was tax or rent time was generally Jewish, not the aristos. As well, the aristos essentially “cropped” the Jews, letting them grow money and wealth, then instituting a pogrom or two when they needed some extra cash or to zero out their debts to the Jewish traders and financiers. Since the Jew couldn’t own land, well… They had to keep their wealth in an easily looted format.

So, you have this situation where the Jew was simultaneously the victim and the oppressor; quite the same little game was played out in Turkish territories, with regards to the locals who converted to Islam–Why do the dirty work, when you can hire the Jews or some of the locals to do it for you, and then “tax farm” them.

This whole thing is why the Jew is viscerally hated by nearly everyone across Central Europe. It’s not their fault, per se–They had to play the cards they were dealt, and the way the iniquitous system built up over the years, well… You got what you got. You hear “pogrom”, and you’re like “Oh, dear… The poor, poor innocent Jews…”. What you didn’t see was the aristos behind the scenes, playing the peasants and Jews alike as patsies and whipping boys. “Oh, dear, my good Kulak… I’m so sorry you’re losing your farm, but you know these damnable Jews and their usury…” “Oh, Moishe… I know you need the money I owe you, to pay your taxes to the Tsar, but those damnable, lazy peasants simply won’t produce enough grain for me to sell at market…”.

The whole thing was a system of damnable exploitation, at all levels. You could even, were you of a mind (which I am not, being an anti-aristocrat…) find plenty of things to serve as apologia for the nobility.

It also didn’t help matters that the Jews got on board the Communist train early on, and were ideological fellows with the whole Bolshevik cause and socialism in general. When you’re in the Ukraine, and look back at the Holodomor, what you remember is those damn Jews among the ranks of the Commissars, and since you’re predisposed towards blaming them anyway, due to tradition…? Is it any wonder that when the Germans showed up, with their anti-Jewish ideology and policies, the Ukrainians joined in wholeheartedly? As did a lot of other Eastern Europeans?

I am not saying they were right, or that the Holocaust was justified, but there is a hell of a lot more context to the whole thing than is generally taught in the schools here in the US. It’s just like with the Serbs and the Moslems in what was Yugoslavia–You can’t understand the situation unless you know the history, and why particular “buttons” are there in the culture. What sounds totally innocuous, even laudatory, to an American diplomat…? To a Serb, those words are code for “Let’s start making money by selling little Serbian girls and boys on the open market in Istanbul, again…”.

We pay a price for our shitty educations in history, and failure to grasp the realities of things in the rest of the world. I honestly could never “get” why my stepdad, a Slovene who you would think never met or knew any Jews in his rural area growing up, had such a visceral, unthinking hatred of them as a group. It wasn’t just “Nazi propaganda” from the war that led to that, either–There was significant history behind it all, and “folk memory” like you wouldn’t believe. The roots of anti-Semitism run deep, across much of Eastern Europe, and some of it stemmed from good reasons, at least to the participants.