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	<title>Comments on: Focusing less on reducing crashes and more on reducing fatalities</title>
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		<title>By: Graham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2018 16:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Graham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2018 16:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, cards on table. I am a pedestrian and bus user more than anything else. Drive occasionally but never needed to actually own a car. 

I live in a city and neighbourhood lately obsessed with traffic calming, speed bumps, bike lanes, etc. Ride over a speed bump in a bus with a driver weakly paying attention, though they are mostly good here, and you&#039;ll wake from your reverie in a hurry.

I have never once in my life felt imperilled from a car at an intersection, and obviously not at all when walking on a sidewalk parallel to their road. 

Bicycles, both using my sidewalk and in cutting corners at intersections, are a constant menace. My deepest hatreds in this life are reserved for the cycling community and their advocates. I would like to see corporal punishment for those using my sidewalks. I&#039;m of course willing to not see such an extreme position advocated, but I think of it every time one of our idiot councillors or neighbourhood associations is banging on about cyclists&#039; safety, road access, etc. 

That felt good, thanks. 

Although that was not intended to be entirely tongue in cheek, here on a more serious note. I am closer to where they are on the speed analysis, though with the caveat that the advocacy side of the population here is already pushing for even lower limits.

We have a number of two-lane through roads that are 40 km/h [close enough to 25 mph] and that strikes me as fine for roads of this size, though 50 [31 mph] isn&#039;t going to do anyone any harm. Naturally, we have people who want them to be a tongue-crawling 30 km/h [18.8 mph] or slower, and still with speed bumps. 

Our city main roads default to 50 km/h [31] or 60 [37], which strike as reasonable, based on road size and configuration. Naturally, we have people screeching that we need to slow things down for the children.

I don&#039;t normally like to adopt this pose, but at that point I really must, as just how much dumber children are today than when I was one of them? That and how often do I see kids playing outside, let alone in the street? Sometimes. Not a lot.

Sigh. I suppose I&#039;d be willing to take this sort of thing on board in parts. But really &quot;advice from Sweden&quot; to me is basically the same sort of branding that William F. Buckley once meant when he started a log entry &quot;The US Conference of Catholic Bishops has announced... but how can I go on?&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, cards on table. I am a pedestrian and bus user more than anything else. Drive occasionally but never needed to actually own a car. </p>
<p>I live in a city and neighbourhood lately obsessed with traffic calming, speed bumps, bike lanes, etc. Ride over a speed bump in a bus with a driver weakly paying attention, though they are mostly good here, and you&#8217;ll wake from your reverie in a hurry.</p>
<p>I have never once in my life felt imperilled from a car at an intersection, and obviously not at all when walking on a sidewalk parallel to their road. </p>
<p>Bicycles, both using my sidewalk and in cutting corners at intersections, are a constant menace. My deepest hatreds in this life are reserved for the cycling community and their advocates. I would like to see corporal punishment for those using my sidewalks. I&#8217;m of course willing to not see such an extreme position advocated, but I think of it every time one of our idiot councillors or neighbourhood associations is banging on about cyclists&#8217; safety, road access, etc. </p>
<p>That felt good, thanks. </p>
<p>Although that was not intended to be entirely tongue in cheek, here on a more serious note. I am closer to where they are on the speed analysis, though with the caveat that the advocacy side of the population here is already pushing for even lower limits.</p>
<p>We have a number of two-lane through roads that are 40 km/h [close enough to 25 mph] and that strikes me as fine for roads of this size, though 50 [31 mph] isn&#8217;t going to do anyone any harm. Naturally, we have people who want them to be a tongue-crawling 30 km/h [18.8 mph] or slower, and still with speed bumps. </p>
<p>Our city main roads default to 50 km/h [31] or 60 [37], which strike as reasonable, based on road size and configuration. Naturally, we have people screeching that we need to slow things down for the children.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t normally like to adopt this pose, but at that point I really must, as just how much dumber children are today than when I was one of them? That and how often do I see kids playing outside, let alone in the street? Sometimes. Not a lot.</p>
<p>Sigh. I suppose I&#8217;d be willing to take this sort of thing on board in parts. But really &#8220;advice from Sweden&#8221; to me is basically the same sort of branding that William F. Buckley once meant when he started a log entry &#8220;The US Conference of Catholic Bishops has announced&#8230; but how can I go on?&#8221;</p>
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