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	<title>Comments on: Leftists should appreciate The Case Against Education</title>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2018/04/leftists-should-appreciate-the-case-against-education/comment-page-1/#comment-2629204</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2018 05:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I got married late, and put my kids through almost exactly the same schools in the same town that I grew up in, just about 40 years later. 

I live in a university town; our schools today are rated 10/10 in our state. These schools are in large measure a disgrace, primarily due to &quot;teachers&quot; who can&#039;t be fired, and the pernicious influence of extreme Leftist feminism that almost ruined my son&#039;s life and yes, cultural Marxism. I couldn&#039;t believe my eyes. We made liberal use of tutoring and our kids were bright self-starters, so we made it through. 

In the 20 years during which my two children grew up and went through the public school system, I went from being an absolute supporter of public education staffed by university-trained teachers in unions, to refusing to vote for millages in the hopes that the entire worthless system would collapse. All parties are to blame, the whole thing needs to be scrapped.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got married late, and put my kids through almost exactly the same schools in the same town that I grew up in, just about 40 years later. </p>
<p>I live in a university town; our schools today are rated 10/10 in our state. These schools are in large measure a disgrace, primarily due to &#8220;teachers&#8221; who can&#8217;t be fired, and the pernicious influence of extreme Leftist feminism that almost ruined my son&#8217;s life and yes, cultural Marxism. I couldn&#8217;t believe my eyes. We made liberal use of tutoring and our kids were bright self-starters, so we made it through. </p>
<p>In the 20 years during which my two children grew up and went through the public school system, I went from being an absolute supporter of public education staffed by university-trained teachers in unions, to refusing to vote for millages in the hopes that the entire worthless system would collapse. All parties are to blame, the whole thing needs to be scrapped.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2018 22:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The corollary to all of that is that the Left generally doesn&#039;t reason things out in the first place--Note how often they frame the issues as &quot;beliefs&quot;, rather than as objective observations about how humans interact and work.

There&#039;s something akin to religion going on with a lot of these people, avowed atheists though they may claim to be. The response you get when you point to all the many and sundry failures of socialism throughout history is usually akin to that which you get when questioning the existence of God to a devout Christian or Muslim... Which, I think, says a great deal about the human need for some sort of irrationality in their lives, whether it&#039;s a faith in God(s) or the altruistic nature of their fellow man.

Me? I go on established track records, which show me clearly that the rest of the human race consists mostly of right bastards...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The corollary to all of that is that the Left generally doesn&#8217;t reason things out in the first place&#8211;Note how often they frame the issues as &#8220;beliefs&#8221;, rather than as objective observations about how humans interact and work.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s something akin to religion going on with a lot of these people, avowed atheists though they may claim to be. The response you get when you point to all the many and sundry failures of socialism throughout history is usually akin to that which you get when questioning the existence of God to a devout Christian or Muslim&#8230; Which, I think, says a great deal about the human need for some sort of irrationality in their lives, whether it&#8217;s a faith in God(s) or the altruistic nature of their fellow man.</p>
<p>Me? I go on established track records, which show me clearly that the rest of the human race consists mostly of right bastards&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Senexada</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2018/04/leftists-should-appreciate-the-case-against-education/comment-page-1/#comment-2629051</link>
		<dc:creator>Senexada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2018 16:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That leftists would appreciate an argument brings to mind the quote that you can&#039;t reason a person out of a position that he didn&#039;t reason himself into in the first place.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That leftists would appreciate an argument brings to mind the quote that you can&#8217;t reason a person out of a position that he didn&#8217;t reason himself into in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2018 15:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Most leftists are people who did well in the traditional academic world, and who are frustrated that their proficiency and adaptation to that world has not and does not translate into real life. So, they try to make the outer world over into an academic-like reality that they think they will thrive in.

Leftism always has been, and always will be the refuge of the uncertain and fearful who are afraid to take part in reality. They build cloud-castles spun out of fantasy, and try to impose that fantasy on reality. Results are always ugly, because there is no worse an extremist than the frustrated idealist who discovers that their ideas don&#039;t work, and that the &quot;wreckers&quot; won&#039;t cooperate in their fantasies.

You want an example of how these things work, look at how little girls play; very often, the dominant alpha will be making the rules, and when the other little girls won&#039;t play by them, or wander off, she&#039;ll throw a temper-tantrum like nothing you&#039;ve ever seen before. Most left-wingers have more in common with these playground bullies than they do anything else.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most leftists are people who did well in the traditional academic world, and who are frustrated that their proficiency and adaptation to that world has not and does not translate into real life. So, they try to make the outer world over into an academic-like reality that they think they will thrive in.</p>
<p>Leftism always has been, and always will be the refuge of the uncertain and fearful who are afraid to take part in reality. They build cloud-castles spun out of fantasy, and try to impose that fantasy on reality. Results are always ugly, because there is no worse an extremist than the frustrated idealist who discovers that their ideas don&#8217;t work, and that the &#8220;wreckers&#8221; won&#8217;t cooperate in their fantasies.</p>
<p>You want an example of how these things work, look at how little girls play; very often, the dominant alpha will be making the rules, and when the other little girls won&#8217;t play by them, or wander off, she&#8217;ll throw a temper-tantrum like nothing you&#8217;ve ever seen before. Most left-wingers have more in common with these playground bullies than they do anything else.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2018 13:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Although I can see some points that might still be of interest to today&#039;s left, Caplan seems to be addressing mainly a left that existed 60 years ago.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I can see some points that might still be of interest to today&#8217;s left, Caplan seems to be addressing mainly a left that existed 60 years ago.</p>
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