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	<title>Comments on: Inside an accused school shooter’s mind</title>
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		<title>By: An Ancient Urge</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2018/03/inside-an-accused-school-shooters-mind/comment-page-1/#comment-2627631</link>
		<dc:creator>An Ancient Urge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2018 21:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;But the iniquity of oblivion blindly scattereth her poppy, and deals with the memory of men without distinction to merit of perpetuity... Herostratus lives that burnt the Temple of Diana, he is almost lost that built it... Who knows whether the best of men be known? or whether there be not more remarkable persons forgot, than any that stand remembred in the known account of time?&quot;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herostratus]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But the iniquity of oblivion blindly scattereth her poppy, and deals with the memory of men without distinction to merit of perpetuity&#8230; Herostratus lives that burnt the Temple of Diana, he is almost lost that built it&#8230; Who knows whether the best of men be known? or whether there be not more remarkable persons forgot, than any that stand remembred in the known account of time?&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herostratus" >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herostratus</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kirk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2018 15:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think there&#039;s a certain percentage of the population that&#039;s like this, and you can&#039;t do much about it besides keep identifying them and then actually &lt;i&gt;do&lt;/i&gt; something about them when you do. When the lion comes, there is no need to agonize over the lion&#039;s nature; you act, and you act by eliminating the lion.

This is a simple fact that we&#039;ve lost sight of. Generations ago, men and women like this would have likely been &quot;peered out&quot; from life, when their neighbors and kin realized what they were. And, that was a lot easier to do, when you had ten kids, and not as much invested in them as we do now. Today&#039;s parents don&#039;t have the same amount of dispassion that they did of old--I can recall hearing old-timers from families with ten kids, whose parents basically treated them like fungible and expendable farm implements, and the discussion about Carl, the one brother who liked abusing animals and younger siblings...? It was interesting, to say the least. Carl didn&#039;t make it out of his teenage years, and you rather got the impression that the rest of the family made sure of that.

These days, that&#039;s not gonna happen. The old-timers had ways of dealing with this stuff, and did it without apology or rancor. Only our enlightened idiocy looks at a damaged creature, and says &quot;Oh, how sad... We must help them...&quot;. In the old, more resource-constrained days of yore, you didn&#039;t worry about whether it was nature or nurture; you just empirically identified the bad seed, and ensured it didn&#039;t get planted.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there&#8217;s a certain percentage of the population that&#8217;s like this, and you can&#8217;t do much about it besides keep identifying them and then actually <i>do</i> something about them when you do. When the lion comes, there is no need to agonize over the lion&#8217;s nature; you act, and you act by eliminating the lion.</p>
<p>This is a simple fact that we&#8217;ve lost sight of. Generations ago, men and women like this would have likely been &#8220;peered out&#8221; from life, when their neighbors and kin realized what they were. And, that was a lot easier to do, when you had ten kids, and not as much invested in them as we do now. Today&#8217;s parents don&#8217;t have the same amount of dispassion that they did of old&#8211;I can recall hearing old-timers from families with ten kids, whose parents basically treated them like fungible and expendable farm implements, and the discussion about Carl, the one brother who liked abusing animals and younger siblings&#8230;? It was interesting, to say the least. Carl didn&#8217;t make it out of his teenage years, and you rather got the impression that the rest of the family made sure of that.</p>
<p>These days, that&#8217;s not gonna happen. The old-timers had ways of dealing with this stuff, and did it without apology or rancor. Only our enlightened idiocy looks at a damaged creature, and says &#8220;Oh, how sad&#8230; We must help them&#8230;&#8221;. In the old, more resource-constrained days of yore, you didn&#8217;t worry about whether it was nature or nurture; you just empirically identified the bad seed, and ensured it didn&#8217;t get planted.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2018/03/inside-an-accused-school-shooters-mind/comment-page-1/#comment-2622326</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2018 14:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It has its own problems, but we&#039;d even be better off if every young person imbibed greed in childhood. It&#039;s easier to get a little money than to get an equal measure of fame, and less destructive. And more people can get money than fame. 

I&#039;d even be willing to be tolerant of the class that gets money by illegal means. There&#039;s crime, and then there&#039;s crime.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has its own problems, but we&#8217;d even be better off if every young person imbibed greed in childhood. It&#8217;s easier to get a little money than to get an equal measure of fame, and less destructive. And more people can get money than fame. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d even be willing to be tolerant of the class that gets money by illegal means. There&#8217;s crime, and then there&#8217;s crime.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2018 14:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s hard to see the validity of cavalierly dismissing the role of bullies, abuse or a fractured mind, since status seeking on its own, even in someone so unlikely to achieve status, seems not to normally lead to this sort of thing.

We might, collectively, usefully re-evaluate a social model that seems to promise young people they will get fame, or at least prioritizes it as a life goal more than was formerly the case.

I don&#039;t see a road back to a world in which being an ordinary person has intrinsic dignity, let alone one in which every young person believes it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s hard to see the validity of cavalierly dismissing the role of bullies, abuse or a fractured mind, since status seeking on its own, even in someone so unlikely to achieve status, seems not to normally lead to this sort of thing.</p>
<p>We might, collectively, usefully re-evaluate a social model that seems to promise young people they will get fame, or at least prioritizes it as a life goal more than was formerly the case.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see a road back to a world in which being an ordinary person has intrinsic dignity, let alone one in which every young person believes it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ross</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2018 14:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Was anything in there about the meds he was (or had been) on?

Was it a more or less intact family or was there a divorce or abuse issue in there?

Did Ballenger conjecture about why somebody who went from &quot;wanting to be someone&quot; turned into wanting to be a killer? If it was just pure recognition you wouldn&#039;t think most people would go for &quot;killer&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was anything in there about the meds he was (or had been) on?</p>
<p>Was it a more or less intact family or was there a divorce or abuse issue in there?</p>
<p>Did Ballenger conjecture about why somebody who went from &#8220;wanting to be someone&#8221; turned into wanting to be a killer? If it was just pure recognition you wouldn&#8217;t think most people would go for &#8220;killer&#8221;</p>
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