Blah, blah, blah typical Jewish lies and distortions. I quoted Putin and you deliver some diatribe. The quote is correct. I want to bring to everyone’s attention that all his gassious verbiage and abuse of electrons has NOTHING to do with the quote. Is it true? Is it not? We know it’s true so the Jew way is to fill the air with nonsense and call me a Marxist which obviously has no substance. He will try to stick to this because it sidelines the information that is harmful to the Jews. More smoke and mirrors. This constant lying…I really don’t think they understand how irksome this is. They only believe, “I won that one…I wasn’t caught outright”, no matter the long term detriment to their reputation.

“…Graham for me Jews are the canary in coal mine…”

Jews always say this sort of stupidity. They are not the canary that alerts others to gas they are the stink in the shit. They are the gas.

I too used to be pro-Israel in the 80′s but over time their abuse and false fags attacks on my country has caused me to look at the history of the Jews and it’s not good. It’s a reel that plays the same thing over and over. They move into a country and abuse the residents in almost the same way over and over. We’ve, I mean the west, tried just about everything to get along with these people but only thing that seems to work is to get rid of them. Keep them away and allow them no say in anything you cherish.

“…These days I am more likely to think there has been a price paid for the benefits we have all accrued from American power…”

A large part of this has been linearly coordinated with Jewish power and control of the country. I’m not saying that it’s only Jews but in a very large way anyone with any different opinions than the Jews are edged out. You can look at the Congressman from Ohio James Traficant. Just for looking after one of his constituents, his job, he was hounded by the Jews continuously, jailed and eventually, I believe, murdered by them. Their behavior is absurd. Traficant was never some Nazi or hater of Jews but he eventually became more and more that way. The Jews believe that they should aggressively crush all decent of any kind. If you take that stance then eventually what you will get is war. If there’s no way to change anything by politics then it only leaves war.

“…think America is mostly fine [if only as a result of the past couple of decades] and want to remake the world into Americ…”

The USA is a total piece of shit, run by gangsters. perverts and thugs.

For example if secession were done without war it wouldn’t be a zero sum game.
American Loyalists would have a chunk of North America, but American patriots too.

The best recent example was the split of Czechs and Slovaks all made in civilized way.

With peoples and nations, I just figure it’s one of those rights that can only be justified in retrospect, since there is so rarely a clearcut way to distinguish ‘nationhood’, attitudes toward identity, and desire for secession among the people and territory ostensibly doing it. Southern Unionists were, by the secession of their states, being forcibly stripped of their identity and allegiance by secession no less than their pro-secession neighbours were when the Union forcibly suppressed them.

The same was true of the very large number of American Loyalists in the earlier war.

It’s why secession rarely happens unless proven in open conflict. Which is why I always make sure to note that I’ve let go of the wounds of 1776…

I didn’t have Loyalist roots anyway- my people were still in the old country then.

Many Canadians, Brits, Europeans, have widely varied views on the US. There is plenty of North American solidarity or Atlanticism, as the case may be. From me, too. When I criticize the US, it comes from a very [VERY] different place than it does from most Canadians. I can guarantee that.

Not unlike my reaction to Israel, I was in the 80s a gung-ho Reaganaut pro-American and could hear nothing against the US.

These days I am more likely to think there has been a price paid for the benefits we have all accrued from American power.

For example, I look at the US now and think the dominant options are, the current president notwithstanding, neocon Republican American exceptionalists who think America is mostly fine [if only as a result of the past couple of decades] and want to remake the world into America, and progressive left Democrats who [sure] want to ‘fundamentally transform’ America by making it a little more like the world, but then in turn want to take that blend and impose it on the world and make the world more like their America. Two wings of American exceptionalism, even if Obama choked on the phrase.

If I look back at the history of America, in terms of Kevin Phillips’ “The Cousin’s Wars”, it looks to me like the Puritan City on a Hill tradition traces a golden thread through both parties and controlled both of them no later than circa 1900, and has been fighting amongst itself ever since for leadership.

I don’t quite want to live in their world.

We see Russia dropping cluster bombs in Syria and nothing happens, if was Israel would open news.
More amusing is how media changes the titles of Assad. If it is against Israel it is the Syrian Leader. If it is not it is the Syrian Dictator.

Likewise Fidel Castro is(was) the Cuban Leader
but Pinochet was the Chilean dictator.
Showing well the media Marxist culture.

Again Sam J. i put in evidence that you were fabricating and putting lies regarding Putin and Jews in this blog.

Result?

Yes, I get that ethnic cleansing was a 2-way street in the 1940s in what was then the Palestine Mandate. And I reiterate that I get it- that’s what happens and that’s how you build a state when the demographics look like that.

As these things go, I wouldn’t say what the Jews did was worse than the Arabs, just vastly more effective. I absolutely would not claim it to be equal to the Holocaust, as some opponents of Israel and the modern Palestinians sometimes do. A sense of scale and proportion, and comparison of aims and methods, forbids that analogy.

So when I cite it as background for a catchphrase like “sins of Israel’s founding”, I’m not attempting to characterize Israel as having unique, unjustifiable, or otherwise ghastly roots that it must now expiate by any means. Just that they built their nation in a way not unlike many others, by getting their hands dirty. Were I them, and the world what I consider reasonable, I’d probably just say, yep, we did all that, that’s how it works and we’re not sorry. We needed a nation for our people and we wanted the ancestral lands in which some small number of us kept our toehold all these centuries.

They’d get no complaints from me on that score.

And I get Jerusalem as well. It’s the holy of holies. Christians are used to it being under someone else’s rule, though perhaps never wholly reconciled. For Muslims, they are used to owning it but it’s only number 3 for them. For Jews, it’s the be-all and end-all. I’d want it too, and never give it up once taken.

My original comment just boils down to two things-

1st, I’ve let go of the hard-core, Cold-War influenced Gentile Zionist attitude I used to have in the 1980s, and I no longer feel the need to deny or wish away anything that I might see as the darker side of Israel’s founding, statehood, or foreign policy. I just accept these things in realist mode and recognize what I’d think if I were Israeli, and leave it at that.

And 2nd, I don’t feel the need to automatically consider Israel an ally for all times, conditions, and purposes. They’re a state that has institutions, laws, and civic norms much like mine, they’ve been a sort of ally of convenience to the US, which is in turn an ally to my country, and their religion and customs have intertwined with and informed, and frankly more recently also been informed by, my civilization. These things create some sympathy and plenty of respect, but I think nothing is owed in either direction unless it suits us both.

I have a similarly complicated albeit more distant relationship to the ideas of Arab culture and Islam, but never mind that now.

That doesn’t apply to the targets of most historical ethnic cleansings, who were pretty clear on what was happening to them even if they lacked that pithy phrase.