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	<title>Comments on: You are quite likely to grind up the humans in the process</title>
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		<title>By: Isegoria</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2018/01/you-are-quite-likely-to-grind-up-the-humans-in-the-process/comment-page-1/#comment-2607856</link>
		<dc:creator>Isegoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2018 12:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[David, the version of that Soviet bathtub story that I heard involved cars &#8212; and people stealing each other&#039;s windshield wipers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, the version of that Soviet bathtub story that I heard involved cars &mdash; and people stealing each other&#8217;s windshield wipers.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam J.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2018 00:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m with Dan Kurt on the use of opiates. I had an accident and without them &#8212; I know, I stopped taking them &#8212; I was in severe pain. Major pain. With them it was a dull pain, but without it was like torture. Not everyone gets hooked on opiates. The ones that do we should concentrate on helping them and not punishing everyone.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Dan Kurt on the use of opiates. I had an accident and without them &mdash; I know, I stopped taking them &mdash; I was in severe pain. Major pain. With them it was a dull pain, but without it was like torture. Not everyone gets hooked on opiates. The ones that do we should concentrate on helping them and not punishing everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: David Foster</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Foster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2018 20:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For a couple of interesting examples of incentive systems that misdirected, see my post &lt;a href=&quot;https://chicagoboyz.net/archives/56035.html&quot;&gt;Stupidity &#8212; Communist-Style and Capitalist-Style&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a couple of interesting examples of incentive systems that misdirected, see my post <a href="https://chicagoboyz.net/archives/56035.html">Stupidity &mdash; Communist-Style and Capitalist-Style</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: David Foster</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Foster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2018 20:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Most companies are dealing with reasonably standardized inputs, which can be turned into measurable outputs&quot;

It&#039;s hard enough in business, when you are dealing with things like revenue, profit, and production quantities.  The establishment of a new sales compensation system, for example, will often lead to behavior which was not predicted and is not desirable from a company point of view.

And I remember talking to one factory manager who said he didn&#039;t like piecework systems because the workers, trying to make a little more, would do things not optimal from a safety perspective. 99.99% of the time it would be fine, but occasionally someone would lose a finger.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Most companies are dealing with reasonably standardized inputs, which can be turned into measurable outputs&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s hard enough in business, when you are dealing with things like revenue, profit, and production quantities.  The establishment of a new sales compensation system, for example, will often lead to behavior which was not predicted and is not desirable from a company point of view.</p>
<p>And I remember talking to one factory manager who said he didn&#8217;t like piecework systems because the workers, trying to make a little more, would do things not optimal from a safety perspective. 99.99% of the time it would be fine, but occasionally someone would lose a finger.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Kurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2018 16:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[re: &quot;I have heard that one of the consequences of this phenomenon is the over-prescription of opiates. Hospitals are graded on the rate of readmission of discharged patients. Administrators found that one of the main causes of readmission was pain, so hospitals started giving more patients opiates to prevent them from coming back.&quot; Beor etc.

As an individual that went through three accidents where pain was so bad that only opiates controlled the pain (spiral fx of humerus, herniated lumbar disc, hip fx) I can say opiates were a blessing. As I healed the need for pain relief diminished and the opiates were withdrawn but during that acute time of need my surgeon/physician gave me blessed relief. All of that was years ago. Recently my wife herniated a lumbar disk and NOW her physician did not start with an opiate to relieve her severe pain. Because of the &quot;opiate crisis&quot; he used much weaker drugs and &quot;titrated&quot; her up over time to an opiate. She had over a week of torture before she had true pain relief. Neither of us were anywhere near being addicted by the use of opiates for pain relief. Neither of us craved opiates after the pain subsided. Look for another factor than pain to explain the Opiate Crisis.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: &#8220;I have heard that one of the consequences of this phenomenon is the over-prescription of opiates. Hospitals are graded on the rate of readmission of discharged patients. Administrators found that one of the main causes of readmission was pain, so hospitals started giving more patients opiates to prevent them from coming back.&#8221; Beor etc.</p>
<p>As an individual that went through three accidents where pain was so bad that only opiates controlled the pain (spiral fx of humerus, herniated lumbar disc, hip fx) I can say opiates were a blessing. As I healed the need for pain relief diminished and the opiates were withdrawn but during that acute time of need my surgeon/physician gave me blessed relief. All of that was years ago. Recently my wife herniated a lumbar disk and NOW her physician did not start with an opiate to relieve her severe pain. Because of the &#8220;opiate crisis&#8221; he used much weaker drugs and &#8220;titrated&#8221; her up over time to an opiate. She had over a week of torture before she had true pain relief. Neither of us were anywhere near being addicted by the use of opiates for pain relief. Neither of us craved opiates after the pain subsided. Look for another factor than pain to explain the Opiate Crisis.</p>
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		<title>By: Kentucky Headhunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kentucky Headhunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2018 16:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I work in healthcare IT. We are constantly being asked to provide metrics to leadership and other groups. We are often astounded by how poorly thought out many of these requests are, as &quot;validity&quot; seems to be a completely foreign concept to most of the people asking for reports and whatnot.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work in healthcare IT. We are constantly being asked to provide metrics to leadership and other groups. We are often astounded by how poorly thought out many of these requests are, as &#8220;validity&#8221; seems to be a completely foreign concept to most of the people asking for reports and whatnot.</p>
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		<title>By: Beor the Old</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beor the Old</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2018 12:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have heard that one of the consequences of this phenomenon is the over-prescription of opiates. Hospitals are graded on the rate of readmission of discharged patients. Administrators found that one of the main causes of readmission was pain, so hospitals started giving more patients opiates to prevent them from coming back. This had the secondary benefit of allowing hospitals to discharge patients earlier than had been standard as well. So from the hospital&#039;s business perspective, giving out opiates was a win-win.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have heard that one of the consequences of this phenomenon is the over-prescription of opiates. Hospitals are graded on the rate of readmission of discharged patients. Administrators found that one of the main causes of readmission was pain, so hospitals started giving more patients opiates to prevent them from coming back. This had the secondary benefit of allowing hospitals to discharge patients earlier than had been standard as well. So from the hospital&#8217;s business perspective, giving out opiates was a win-win.</p>
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