Comments on: The perfect antidote to the cocktail of coddling and accusation

By: Dave

Dave — Sat, 27 Jan 2018 21:18:12 +0000

Overhere, I agree. I didn’t mean to suggest Peterson hasn’t taken on an heroic struggle against various manifestations of Political Correctness. He’s done that and more. I truly enjoy his work.

I understand he has to walk a thin line, and any slip-up can derail the significant headway he has made in the public realm.

That being said, as he walks that line, he has, of late, gotten more strident in his condemnation of male weakness and apathy. The tough talk doesn’t bother me in the least, but at some point he has to make clear that a collective change in men occurs when women start dismantling the mountains of bullsh*t that Feminism has built around all of our lives.

In the end I’m really just nitpicking. I still think Jordan is great.

By: Overhere

Overhere — Sat, 27 Jan 2018 08:36:23 +0000

Can’t agree, Dave. Dr Peterson has to be, in the current climate, very careful about what he says in relation to women. He could say a lot more, and in the Ms Newman farce he very carefully avoided getting her into the pro-feminist faux-outrage I suspect lurks not very deep in the woman. Even casual comments that twenty years ago would have passed unnoticed are now focal points for a storm of so-called protest that hides any truth,

Wisely I think, Dr Peterson focussed on the one area that doesn’t get deflected by any twitter-and-facebook froth, so he stays firmly on that of the male’s position.

The key to the game is getting the players to know their position in it: once they are aware of where they are and why their gameplan isn’t working, things begin to change. Once aware, it is up to the players to turn it round on a personal level which then transmits to a broader understanding.

By: Dave

Dave — Sat, 27 Jan 2018 02:38:24 +0000

Agree with the first commenter. I enjoy Peterson’s work, and he deserves the accolades he’s getting after years in the trenches.

That said, I do have a problem with some of his phrasing and apparent misperceptions. Peterson is a Boomer, and doesn’t seem to understand, at least not through personal experience, how horrible most young woman are in the West, and how much damage this has done to young men.

Peterson was raised in a very different time and environment than men 40 and under, and simply telling young men to “man up” is no where near enough to right the sinking ship of the West.

I know that he knows this on some level, and I still feel that he represents a very positive trend in our collective social discourse, but until someone addresses the female half of the population and the toxicity they bring to the table, no amount of tough talk will suffice.

By: Gaikokumaniakku

Gaikokumaniakku — Fri, 26 Jan 2018 23:33:10 +0000

If you work in a corporation dominated by psychopaths (e.g. a Wall Street investment bank) then it is true that your life is essentially a series of ruthless dominance competitions. In a corrupt organization, the most evil psychopath gets to the top, where he commands a little army of less-competent psychopaths.

I have never seen Dr. Peterson address the fact that psychopaths are very successful, NOT because of competence at work, but because of competence at fraud, force, and Machiavellian machinations. I don’t necessarily think that Dr. Peterson is trying to defend psychopaths, but Dr. Peterson’s rhetoric is ideal for psychopaths who want to defend their ill-gotten gains.