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	<title>Comments on: The U.S. Army neglected Megamission Three</title>
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		<title>By: Irisviel</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2017/10/the-u-s-army-neglected-megamission-three/comment-page-1/#comment-2585885</link>
		<dc:creator>Irisviel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Oct 2017 12:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He&#039;s not wrong, but the orbital kinetic rods example is poorly chosen (understandably so, given the salience of the space race, and the primitive computers and sensors of the era).

Ordinary ballistic missiles produce the same effects for much cheaper costs. Sensors are the limiting factor, and mounting them on UAVs is cheaper and gives better resolution than satellites.

Both of these rely on PNT. The military is aware of that. Fixing it entails replacing satellites with smarter TERCOM and INS.

Space&#039;s unique terrain doesn&#039;t offer advantage until two generations of upgrade out. Once sensors can provide a full panopticon, speed will be the next bottleneck. That&#039;s a competition between lasers and pre-positioned robots.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s not wrong, but the orbital kinetic rods example is poorly chosen (understandably so, given the salience of the space race, and the primitive computers and sensors of the era).</p>
<p>Ordinary ballistic missiles produce the same effects for much cheaper costs. Sensors are the limiting factor, and mounting them on UAVs is cheaper and gives better resolution than satellites.</p>
<p>Both of these rely on PNT. The military is aware of that. Fixing it entails replacing satellites with smarter TERCOM and INS.</p>
<p>Space&#8217;s unique terrain doesn&#8217;t offer advantage until two generations of upgrade out. Once sensors can provide a full panopticon, speed will be the next bottleneck. That&#8217;s a competition between lasers and pre-positioned robots.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam J.</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2017/10/the-u-s-army-neglected-megamission-three/comment-page-1/#comment-2585629</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2017 21:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We&#039;re foolish for not building single stage to orbit reusable or at least being 100% sure we can&#039;t. There are several designs that show we can. Even if it&#039;s expensive the fuel cost are next to nothing. Not to mention the utility of fast refueling.

I think the reason this hasn&#039;t been done is none of the major rocket manufacturers feel they can make money off of this so there&#039;s no demand except for those that want low cost access to space.

Another reason is the Military Industrial complex has ceased to be really innovative. They&#039;re just ripping us off. The guys who run these are no longer engineers interested in pushing the limit. They are all business guys who just want profits and, I believe, most are not technically inclined enough, or even care, to see what can be done.

With present management of the various aerospace companies we may not be able to build anything like this. They would demand so much to do so and carry about the task in such an inefficient manner as to make it financially infeasible. Look at the present estimated cost for a new nuclear weapon. A trillion dollars. That&#039;s just stupid. It just pure monopolist rape. I saw a bid for upgrading 400 gravity drop nuclear weapons to fit them into the F-22 and R-35. They want 40 billion. This is absurd. The nuke part is already built and the added JDAM package(precision guidance) is also already built. We may need to go to a Russian system where we have design bureaus and then bid the manufacturing. Management in this country is asking for more and more money while delivering less and less.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re foolish for not building single stage to orbit reusable or at least being 100% sure we can&#8217;t. There are several designs that show we can. Even if it&#8217;s expensive the fuel cost are next to nothing. Not to mention the utility of fast refueling.</p>
<p>I think the reason this hasn&#8217;t been done is none of the major rocket manufacturers feel they can make money off of this so there&#8217;s no demand except for those that want low cost access to space.</p>
<p>Another reason is the Military Industrial complex has ceased to be really innovative. They&#8217;re just ripping us off. The guys who run these are no longer engineers interested in pushing the limit. They are all business guys who just want profits and, I believe, most are not technically inclined enough, or even care, to see what can be done.</p>
<p>With present management of the various aerospace companies we may not be able to build anything like this. They would demand so much to do so and carry about the task in such an inefficient manner as to make it financially infeasible. Look at the present estimated cost for a new nuclear weapon. A trillion dollars. That&#8217;s just stupid. It just pure monopolist rape. I saw a bid for upgrading 400 gravity drop nuclear weapons to fit them into the F-22 and R-35. They want 40 billion. This is absurd. The nuke part is already built and the added JDAM package(precision guidance) is also already built. We may need to go to a Russian system where we have design bureaus and then bid the manufacturing. Management in this country is asking for more and more money while delivering less and less.</p>
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		<title>By: Isegoria</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2017/10/the-u-s-army-neglected-megamission-three/comment-page-1/#comment-2585562</link>
		<dc:creator>Isegoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2017 17:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I doubt the semi-secret space plane is for dropping Project Thor-style tungsten rods, but I do recall that the RAF was planning on dropping inert &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.isegoria.net/2003/04/tornadoes-to-drop-concrete-bombs/&quot;&gt;concrete bombs&lt;/a&gt; a while back. A laser-guided 1,000-pound block dropped on your tank will really ruin your day.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I doubt the semi-secret space plane is for dropping Project Thor-style tungsten rods, but I do recall that the RAF was planning on dropping inert <a href="http://www.isegoria.net/2003/04/tornadoes-to-drop-concrete-bombs/">concrete bombs</a> a while back. A laser-guided 1,000-pound block dropped on your tank will really ruin your day.</p>
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		<title>By: Purpleslog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Purpleslog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2017 07:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wonder if those unmanned USAF space planes are for an implementation of sorts of something like Project Thor.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if those unmanned USAF space planes are for an implementation of sorts of something like Project Thor.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2017 07:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[After 1920 and before the Army Air Force went Air Force with a budget to lose, a lot of really smart Army Air Force guys wrote a lot of really smart articles.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After 1920 and before the Army Air Force went Air Force with a budget to lose, a lot of really smart Army Air Force guys wrote a lot of really smart articles.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2017 00:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Borepatch,

I thought the same thing when I read this and then I thought to myself, &#039;that makes Jerry&#039;s prediction wrong.&#039;  I mean, I don&#039;t see metal rods regularly raining down on America&#039;s opponents (or China&#039;s or Russia&#039;s, etc.)

Perhaps this prediction will come true, but for some reason, the great powers have yet to realize the military potential of space.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Borepatch,</p>
<p>I thought the same thing when I read this and then I thought to myself, &#8216;that makes Jerry&#8217;s prediction wrong.&#8217;  I mean, I don&#8217;t see metal rods regularly raining down on America&#8217;s opponents (or China&#8217;s or Russia&#8217;s, etc.)</p>
<p>Perhaps this prediction will come true, but for some reason, the great powers have yet to realize the military potential of space.</p>
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		<title>By: Adar</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2017/10/the-u-s-army-neglected-megamission-three/comment-page-1/#comment-2585345</link>
		<dc:creator>Adar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Oct 2017 22:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[After 1920 the U.S. military did not so much neglect the &quot;tomorrow&quot; as they were just plain not given funds for new &quot;things&quot; or concepts that would make a difference.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After 1920 the U.S. military did not so much neglect the &#8220;tomorrow&#8221; as they were just plain not given funds for new &#8220;things&#8221; or concepts that would make a difference.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Sykes</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2017/10/the-u-s-army-neglected-megamission-three/comment-page-1/#comment-2585300</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Sykes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Oct 2017 13:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The US economy, especially its industrial sector (the tax and wealth producing sector) is simply too small to support our current military, never mind a truly high tech military.

The annual budget deficit of over $600 billion is about as large as the total defense budget, and in a few years, assuming interest rates remain historically low, the annual interest payment on the accumulated debt, which is rapidly expanding, will be the largest item in the budget. Then there are the huge unfunded entitlements: Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, ACA, et al.

The most probable long term projection is that our Greek-like budget crisis will force us to downsize our military and to substantially reduce its capabilities.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The US economy, especially its industrial sector (the tax and wealth producing sector) is simply too small to support our current military, never mind a truly high tech military.</p>
<p>The annual budget deficit of over $600 billion is about as large as the total defense budget, and in a few years, assuming interest rates remain historically low, the annual interest payment on the accumulated debt, which is rapidly expanding, will be the largest item in the budget. Then there are the huge unfunded entitlements: Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, ACA, et al.</p>
<p>The most probable long term projection is that our Greek-like budget crisis will force us to downsize our military and to substantially reduce its capabilities.</p>
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		<title>By: Borepatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Borepatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Oct 2017 12:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting that what he referred to as &quot;20 years from now&quot; in his paper is what we refer to as &quot;now&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting that what he referred to as &#8220;20 years from now&#8221; in his paper is what we refer to as &#8220;now&#8221;.</p>
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