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	<title>Comments on: The Greeks had to learn civilization all over again</title>
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		<title>By: Isegoria</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2017/08/the-greeks-had-to-learn-civilization-all-over-again/comment-page-1/#comment-2572903</link>
		<dc:creator>Isegoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Aug 2017 20:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Now that you mention it, yes, an &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.isegoria.net/2008/06/scholars-set-date-for-odysseus-bloody-homecoming/&quot;&gt;eclipse&lt;/a&gt; does figure into the &lt;cite&gt;Odyssey&lt;/cite&gt;: 

&lt;blockquote&gt;It was on April 16, 1178 B.C. that [King Odysseus returned from the Trojan War and slaughtered a group of suitors who had been pressing his wife to marry one of them].

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Homer reports that on the day of the slaughter the sun is blotted from the sky, possibly a reference to an eclipse. In addition, he mentions more than once that it is the time of a new moon, which is necessary for a total eclipse, the researchers say.

Other clues include:
&lt;ul&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;Six days before the slaughter, Venus is visible and high in the sky.&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;Twenty-nine days before, two constellations — the Pleiades and Bootes — are simultaneously visible at sunset.&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;And 33 days before, Mercury is high at dawn and near the western end of its trajectory. This is the researchers’ interpretation, anyway. Homer wrote that Hermes, the Greek name for Mercury, traveled far west to deliver a message.&lt;/li&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that you mention it, yes, an <a href="http://www.isegoria.net/2008/06/scholars-set-date-for-odysseus-bloody-homecoming/">eclipse</a> does figure into the <cite>Odyssey</cite>: </p>
<blockquote><p>It was on April 16, 1178 B.C. that [King Odysseus returned from the Trojan War and slaughtered a group of suitors who had been pressing his wife to marry one of them].</p>
<p>[...]</p>
<p>Homer reports that on the day of the slaughter the sun is blotted from the sky, possibly a reference to an eclipse. In addition, he mentions more than once that it is the time of a new moon, which is necessary for a total eclipse, the researchers say.</p>
<p>Other clues include:</p>
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<li>Six days before the slaughter, Venus is visible and high in the sky.</li>
<li>Twenty-nine days before, two constellations — the Pleiades and Bootes — are simultaneously visible at sunset.</li>
<li>And 33 days before, Mercury is high at dawn and near the western end of its trajectory. This is the researchers’ interpretation, anyway. Homer wrote that Hermes, the Greek name for Mercury, traveled far west to deliver a message.</li>
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		<title>By: Bob Sykes</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2017/08/the-greeks-had-to-learn-civilization-all-over-again/comment-page-1/#comment-2572738</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Sykes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Aug 2017 18:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Based on the eclipse reported in the &lt;em&gt;Odyssey&lt;/em&gt;, the fall of Troy has been dated to 1188 BC, making the Trojan War part of the Sea Peoples legend and an event in the collapse of the Bronze Age.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Based on the eclipse reported in the <em>Odyssey</em>, the fall of Troy has been dated to 1188 BC, making the Trojan War part of the Sea Peoples legend and an event in the collapse of the Bronze Age.</p>
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