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	<title>Comments on: Why the Father of Modern Statistics Didn’t Believe Smoking Caused Cancer</title>
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		<title>By: Toddy Cat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toddy Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2016 20:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Smoking is almost certainly bad for you, but there was, and is, a lot of hysteria and bad science surrounding the entire topic. A lot of the studies on second-hand smoke are pure pseudoscience, for example. It was somewhat like Allied propaganda in WWII. Yeah, the Nazis were bad and deserved to be defeated, but that doesn&#039;t mean that everything put out by OWI in the years 1941-45 was true.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smoking is almost certainly bad for you, but there was, and is, a lot of hysteria and bad science surrounding the entire topic. A lot of the studies on second-hand smoke are pure pseudoscience, for example. It was somewhat like Allied propaganda in WWII. Yeah, the Nazis were bad and deserved to be defeated, but that doesn&#8217;t mean that everything put out by OWI in the years 1941-45 was true.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2016 03:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually, if you think about it, there &lt;em&gt;was&lt;/em&gt; a control group way back just after the 1st World War &#8212; women.

They breathed the same tar fumes from the roads, the same pollution from cars and coal fires, etc., &lt;em&gt;but&lt;/em&gt; it was considered not ladylike to smoke. Smoking was almost exclusively a male habit. Ok, a confounding factor could be that men worked in heavy industry with the attendant dust, chemicals, etc., but there were a lot of men that worked in white collar jobs that were subjected to equivalent levels of pollution, etc. that women were and could have been used as a more representative sampling.

But the old &quot;My grandfather was killed by cigarettes &#8212; he smoked 100 a day from age 12 and died age 97 by being hit by a bus going to the shop to buy his daily ration&quot; argument will never convince anyone that doesn&#039;t want to be convinced. 

Equally, my grandfather went through WW1 in the Army in the trenches without a scratch by enemy action, so, using that argument, war is benign.

Me? The &lt;em&gt;probability&lt;/em&gt; is that smoking does indeed cause premature mortality, so I don&#039;t smoke. YMMV and all that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, if you think about it, there <em>was</em> a control group way back just after the 1st World War &mdash; women.</p>
<p>They breathed the same tar fumes from the roads, the same pollution from cars and coal fires, etc., <em>but</em> it was considered not ladylike to smoke. Smoking was almost exclusively a male habit. Ok, a confounding factor could be that men worked in heavy industry with the attendant dust, chemicals, etc., but there were a lot of men that worked in white collar jobs that were subjected to equivalent levels of pollution, etc. that women were and could have been used as a more representative sampling.</p>
<p>But the old &#8220;My grandfather was killed by cigarettes &mdash; he smoked 100 a day from age 12 and died age 97 by being hit by a bus going to the shop to buy his daily ration&#8221; argument will never convince anyone that doesn&#8217;t want to be convinced. </p>
<p>Equally, my grandfather went through WW1 in the Army in the trenches without a scratch by enemy action, so, using that argument, war is benign.</p>
<p>Me? The <em>probability</em> is that smoking does indeed cause premature mortality, so I don&#8217;t smoke. YMMV and all that.</p>
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		<title>By: Lucklucky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucklucky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2016 23:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As always people just think what they are formatted to think. In this case: smoking = bad.

What about the stress that is relieved by smoking, the easier socialization, making friends, etc?

How many mass murderers smoked?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As always people just think what they are formatted to think. In this case: smoking = bad.</p>
<p>What about the stress that is relieved by smoking, the easier socialization, making friends, etc?</p>
<p>How many mass murderers smoked?</p>
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		<title>By: Adar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2016 18:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bladder cancer too is highly thought to be caused by cigarette smoking.

The nurses study [20,000 nurses studied for twenty years] concluded that one of the five factors that led to good health was not smoking cigs.

Cigarette smoking too raises the blood pressure and contributes to heart disease, hardening of the arteries at an accelerated pace.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bladder cancer too is highly thought to be caused by cigarette smoking.</p>
<p>The nurses study [20,000 nurses studied for twenty years] concluded that one of the five factors that led to good health was not smoking cigs.</p>
<p>Cigarette smoking too raises the blood pressure and contributes to heart disease, hardening of the arteries at an accelerated pace.</p>
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		<title>By: Alrenous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alrenous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2016 17:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A smoker with an average habit will indeed die of lung cancer — roughly six months (again average) before they would have died of something else anyway.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A smoker with an average habit will indeed die of lung cancer — roughly six months (again average) before they would have died of something else anyway.</p>
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