It’s replaced death. Death is a release from pain — valued reward. But the threat of death just isn’t enough to control people. So the ante’s been raised. Now it’s torture, and high-tech torture at that.

Here’s the thing though — being a “no limits pacifist” is a lie.

Take this example. These cops have a sense of decency and beat the stuffing out of the guy and get the location of the car. What does a pacifist actually do? Well, nothing, right? But you know the answer isn’t nothing. He tries his utmost to have the cops who did the right thing prosecuted. Every time someone uses violence to uphold order against people who use violence to destroy order, he sides with the side that destroys.

Jocko stutters in disbelief as he does not comprehend that the pacifists are not engaged in any sort of moral calculation. Rather, they are engaged in an “enlightenment” signaling game. Nor does he understand that Harris is taking part in the same signaling game.

And that by listening (participating in) to Harris’s drivel, we are engaged in the same loop.

Ghey Earth

Sam Harris and Joe Rogan’s listeners have a conniption over Jocko, so Harris says he’s trying to “exorcise” pacifism.