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		<title>By: Kudzu Bob</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2015/12/bowden-on-trump/comment-page-1/#comment-2445659</link>
		<dc:creator>Kudzu Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2015 07:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;He has no coherent political philosophy&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Not stamping the visas of people who want to kill us sounds pretty damned coherent to me, although Mark Bowden deems it &quot;outrageous.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>He has no coherent political philosophy</p></blockquote>
<p>Not stamping the visas of people who want to kill us sounds pretty damned coherent to me, although Mark Bowden deems it &#8220;outrageous.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Kgaard</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2015/12/bowden-on-trump/comment-page-1/#comment-2445610</link>
		<dc:creator>Kgaard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2015 23:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well they said something similar about FDR: Said he was a lightweight and not a good thinker. 

There is a time and place in which this is not a bad thing. In &#039;33 everyone was telling FDR he needed to stick with the gold standard. But he just started messing around with it. Every time he devalued it, the stock market went up. He figured out by trial and error that loosening money was the key to getting out of the Depression (which it was). 

Trump is doing something similar: Feeling his way toward a logical way out of our current PC policy logjam. It doesn&#039;t take an intellectual do this kind of thing ... it takes an experimenter who is able to roll with the breeze, try things and see what works.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well they said something similar about FDR: Said he was a lightweight and not a good thinker. </p>
<p>There is a time and place in which this is not a bad thing. In &#8217;33 everyone was telling FDR he needed to stick with the gold standard. But he just started messing around with it. Every time he devalued it, the stock market went up. He figured out by trial and error that loosening money was the key to getting out of the Depression (which it was). </p>
<p>Trump is doing something similar: Feeling his way toward a logical way out of our current PC policy logjam. It doesn&#8217;t take an intellectual do this kind of thing &#8230; it takes an experimenter who is able to roll with the breeze, try things and see what works.</p>
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		<title>By: Sussex Dave</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2015/12/bowden-on-trump/comment-page-1/#comment-2445578</link>
		<dc:creator>Sussex Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2015 20:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I saw this headline I thought it was going to be Jonathan Bowden. That would have been something. It&#039;s interesting anyway but not especially suprising.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I saw this headline I thought it was going to be Jonathan Bowden. That would have been something. It&#8217;s interesting anyway but not especially suprising.</p>
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		<title>By: Slovenian Guest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slovenian Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2015 18:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Adam Carolla on his experience:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Trump has done a very good job at being successful. That means he has a very strong work ethic. This idea that everyone just sort of backs and falls into everything, that stuff just falls into ones lap, that is done by very feeble-minded people who are never going to amount to anything in their life. Donald Trump busts his ass, and he has created an empire for himself; we can&#039;t deny that. So that is a good thing. He also has children that are very successful themselves, and who adore and are very respectful of him, which I find to be a very good attribute for a father.

I sat in the &lt;cite&gt;Celebrity Apprentice&lt;/cite&gt; boardroom and watched his children on and off camera, and I saw how well they were put together, how much reverence they had for their dad, not fear, respect, and frankly how well composed they were. I saw a guy who raised some very successful children.

Now, he is also a guy who is busy, he speaks in shorthand, shorthand hurts feelings, and it happens. Trump walks and talks; he is one of those guys. He is a guy on a mission, getting into helicopters with retractable gear; that&#039;s the real deal.

People are like, but president of the United States? Well, first off, Donald Trump aside, I&#039;m the guy who wants Elon Musk to run the country. I want the smartest guy in the land to do the job, but I would also much rather have somebody from the private sector than a career politician.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Paraphrased from &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HG8QX5SEtMU&quot;&gt;this YouTube clip&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam Carolla on his experience:</p>
<blockquote><p>Trump has done a very good job at being successful. That means he has a very strong work ethic. This idea that everyone just sort of backs and falls into everything, that stuff just falls into ones lap, that is done by very feeble-minded people who are never going to amount to anything in their life. Donald Trump busts his ass, and he has created an empire for himself; we can&#8217;t deny that. So that is a good thing. He also has children that are very successful themselves, and who adore and are very respectful of him, which I find to be a very good attribute for a father.</p>
<p>I sat in the <cite>Celebrity Apprentice</cite> boardroom and watched his children on and off camera, and I saw how well they were put together, how much reverence they had for their dad, not fear, respect, and frankly how well composed they were. I saw a guy who raised some very successful children.</p>
<p>Now, he is also a guy who is busy, he speaks in shorthand, shorthand hurts feelings, and it happens. Trump walks and talks; he is one of those guys. He is a guy on a mission, getting into helicopters with retractable gear; that&#8217;s the real deal.</p>
<p>People are like, but president of the United States? Well, first off, Donald Trump aside, I&#8217;m the guy who wants Elon Musk to run the country. I want the smartest guy in the land to do the job, but I would also much rather have somebody from the private sector than a career politician.</p></blockquote>
<p>Paraphrased from <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HG8QX5SEtMU">this YouTube clip</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2015 17:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think what is on display here is the somewhat autistic nature of Trump&#039;s personality. He acquired status symbols like the Renoir and the gilded jet because he knew those status objects would make him more admired and thus more powerful.

He is fully aware of the arbitrariness of the status power of said objects and the fact that he was motivated to obtain them merely for the status boost, not for some alleged artistic value.

But is autistic in not realizing (or not caring about) the gauche-ness of pointing out this truth to his guest. He flaunts the idiocy of the Renoir&#039;s value being based on the signature (rather than artistic merit).

As Dan Kurt said, he is deeply and strikingly honest, to the point that he creates uncomfortable situations for people who would prefer the socio-cultural undercurrents of our species would remain unstated.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think what is on display here is the somewhat autistic nature of Trump&#8217;s personality. He acquired status symbols like the Renoir and the gilded jet because he knew those status objects would make him more admired and thus more powerful.</p>
<p>He is fully aware of the arbitrariness of the status power of said objects and the fact that he was motivated to obtain them merely for the status boost, not for some alleged artistic value.</p>
<p>But is autistic in not realizing (or not caring about) the gauche-ness of pointing out this truth to his guest. He flaunts the idiocy of the Renoir&#8217;s value being based on the signature (rather than artistic merit).</p>
<p>As Dan Kurt said, he is deeply and strikingly honest, to the point that he creates uncomfortable situations for people who would prefer the socio-cultural undercurrents of our species would remain unstated.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Kurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2015 16:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All that matters is the DEED. All of the TALK, TALK is meaningless and that is all that the conservatives ever seem to get from the politicians they elect. The Liberals, on the other hand, when elected deliver the goods to their voters: booty in droves for the vote.

Trump is probably as gauche as Bowden alleges, but SO WHAT? Trump is also known for following through with doing what he says he will do. Why do you think he has been so successful in his deals. He has proved over and over again that he means what he says and proves it with an honest Follow Through--I am not talking about Golf here. And why do you think the Republican establishment hates him so? He looks to be an honest politician. Can&#039;t have that. No the Republicans want to continue their charade of being the Washington Generals to the Harlem Globetrotters. Trump would likely blow forever that shtick.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All that matters is the DEED. All of the TALK, TALK is meaningless and that is all that the conservatives ever seem to get from the politicians they elect. The Liberals, on the other hand, when elected deliver the goods to their voters: booty in droves for the vote.</p>
<p>Trump is probably as gauche as Bowden alleges, but SO WHAT? Trump is also known for following through with doing what he says he will do. Why do you think he has been so successful in his deals. He has proved over and over again that he means what he says and proves it with an honest Follow Through&#8211;I am not talking about Golf here. And why do you think the Republican establishment hates him so? He looks to be an honest politician. Can&#8217;t have that. No the Republicans want to continue their charade of being the Washington Generals to the Harlem Globetrotters. Trump would likely blow forever that shtick.</p>
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		<title>By: Slovenian Guest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slovenian Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2015 16:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like it how he calls out &quot;What you get from Trump are commonplace ideas pronounced as received wisdom.&quot; as something negative.

Because common sense is of course beneath us!
What&#039;s next, drinking peach only flavor Ice-T?

Or how he and everyone else conveniently leave the TEMPORARILY deny entry to muslims part out.

When there&#039;s a gas leak, step one is to first turn the main off, that&#039;s step one, not looking for the leak, especially not with a lighter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like it how he calls out &#8220;What you get from Trump are commonplace ideas pronounced as received wisdom.&#8221; as something negative.</p>
<p>Because common sense is of course beneath us!<br />
What&#8217;s next, drinking peach only flavor Ice-T?</p>
<p>Or how he and everyone else conveniently leave the TEMPORARILY deny entry to muslims part out.</p>
<p>When there&#8217;s a gas leak, step one is to first turn the main off, that&#8217;s step one, not looking for the leak, especially not with a lighter.</p>
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