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	<title>Comments on: Mass Murderers Fit Profile</title>
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		<title>By: Graham</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2015/10/mass-murderers-fit-profile/comment-page-1/#comment-2404900</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2015 14:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m pretty much on the gun rights side of the argument, but the NYT and others on that side of the line would not see themselves as being inconsistent. They just start with the built-in assumption that guns are bad and regular people shouldn&#039;t have them anyway, and so any societal permission for people to have them is extremely conditional, and so any violence with a gun at all is enough reason to take them away.

Whereas they, for now, agree with the idea that society can&#039;t lock up all the alienated young men, so they do the math on that and come up with the same mitigating stats you have. 

They still, barely, concede the right of citizens to live their lives and feel whatever emotions they are prone to feel without the state incarcerating them. They don&#039;t really believe in the right to bear arms.

Free people are a necessary condition whose rough edges have to be appropriately mitigated. Guns are, to them, an unnecessary condition that can be removed. So they advocate removal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m pretty much on the gun rights side of the argument, but the NYT and others on that side of the line would not see themselves as being inconsistent. They just start with the built-in assumption that guns are bad and regular people shouldn&#8217;t have them anyway, and so any societal permission for people to have them is extremely conditional, and so any violence with a gun at all is enough reason to take them away.</p>
<p>Whereas they, for now, agree with the idea that society can&#8217;t lock up all the alienated young men, so they do the math on that and come up with the same mitigating stats you have. </p>
<p>They still, barely, concede the right of citizens to live their lives and feel whatever emotions they are prone to feel without the state incarcerating them. They don&#8217;t really believe in the right to bear arms.</p>
<p>Free people are a necessary condition whose rough edges have to be appropriately mitigated. Guns are, to them, an unnecessary condition that can be removed. So they advocate removal.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2015 13:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Related: &lt;a href=&quot;http://bastionofliberty.blogspot.com/2015/10/you-heard-it-here-first.html&quot;&gt;analysis&lt;/a&gt; of the recent claim &quot;Statistics Show White Supremacy is a Bigger Threat to the U.S. Than Radical Muslims.&quot; 

Also, it&#039;s telling that NYT slants toward increased need for therapeutic governance rather than address rootlessness, alienation,  and nihilism of hyper-scaled modern life, the breakdown of family, or regular villification of males. It&#039;s like watching &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cabinetmagazine.org/issues/42/wiles.php&quot;&gt;Calhoun&#039;s mice&lt;/a&gt;:

&lt;blockquote&gt;So what exactly happened in Universe 25? Past day 315, population growth slowed. More than six hundred mice now lived in Universe 25, constantly rubbing shoulders on their way up and down the stairwells to eat, drink, and sleep. Mice found themselves born into a world that was more crowded every day, and there were far more mice than meaningful social roles. With more and more peers to defend against, males found it difficult and stressful to defend their territory, so they abandoned the activity. Normal social discourse within the mouse community broke down, and with it the ability of mice to form social bonds. The failures and dropouts congregated in large groups in the middle of the enclosure, their listless withdrawal occasionally interrupted by spasms and waves of pointless violence. The victims of these random attacks became attackers. Left on their own in nests subject to invasion, nursing females attacked their own young. Procreation slumped, infant abandonment and mortality soared. Lone females retreated to isolated nesting boxes on penthouse levels. Other males, a group Calhoun termed “the beautiful ones,” never sought sex and never fought—they just ate, slept, and groomed, wrapped in narcissistic introspection. Elsewhere, cannibalism, pansexualism, and violence became endemic. Mouse society had collapsed. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Related: <a href="http://bastionofliberty.blogspot.com/2015/10/you-heard-it-here-first.html">analysis</a> of the recent claim &#8220;Statistics Show White Supremacy is a Bigger Threat to the U.S. Than Radical Muslims.&#8221; </p>
<p>Also, it&#8217;s telling that NYT slants toward increased need for therapeutic governance rather than address rootlessness, alienation,  and nihilism of hyper-scaled modern life, the breakdown of family, or regular villification of males. It&#8217;s like watching <a href="http://www.cabinetmagazine.org/issues/42/wiles.php">Calhoun&#8217;s mice</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>So what exactly happened in Universe 25? Past day 315, population growth slowed. More than six hundred mice now lived in Universe 25, constantly rubbing shoulders on their way up and down the stairwells to eat, drink, and sleep. Mice found themselves born into a world that was more crowded every day, and there were far more mice than meaningful social roles. With more and more peers to defend against, males found it difficult and stressful to defend their territory, so they abandoned the activity. Normal social discourse within the mouse community broke down, and with it the ability of mice to form social bonds. The failures and dropouts congregated in large groups in the middle of the enclosure, their listless withdrawal occasionally interrupted by spasms and waves of pointless violence. The victims of these random attacks became attackers. Left on their own in nests subject to invasion, nursing females attacked their own young. Procreation slumped, infant abandonment and mortality soared. Lone females retreated to isolated nesting boxes on penthouse levels. Other males, a group Calhoun termed “the beautiful ones,” never sought sex and never fought—they just ate, slept, and groomed, wrapped in narcissistic introspection. Elsewhere, cannibalism, pansexualism, and violence became endemic. Mouse society had collapsed. </p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Rumblestrip</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rumblestrip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2015 11:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[May I edit? (in CAPS)

&quot;So, for every gun that IS USED to kill people, there are tens of thousands that won’t BE SO USED. For every gun that IS USED to kill large numbers of strangers, there are millions that won’t BE SO USED. (Annually.)&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May I edit? (in CAPS)</p>
<p>&#8220;So, for every gun that IS USED to kill people, there are tens of thousands that won’t BE SO USED. For every gun that IS USED to kill large numbers of strangers, there are millions that won’t BE SO USED. (Annually.)&#8221;</p>
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