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	<title>Comments on: Everything Changes</title>
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		<title>By: Space Nookie</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2015/04/everything-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-2266269</link>
		<dc:creator>Space Nookie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2015 16:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sometimes I use a post-apocalyptic metaphor &#8212; after the &quot;death of god&quot;, the shell-shocked survivors must survive using whatever they can scavenge from the wreckage.

I don&#039;t want to be too critical of Mr. Casnocha, but it&#039;s as if he stumbled onto an Apollo space capsule, and he feels it might be useful as some kind of small hut if only it didn&#039;t have all those extra parts attached.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes I use a post-apocalyptic metaphor &mdash; after the &#8220;death of god&#8221;, the shell-shocked survivors must survive using whatever they can scavenge from the wreckage.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to be too critical of Mr. Casnocha, but it&#8217;s as if he stumbled onto an Apollo space capsule, and he feels it might be useful as some kind of small hut if only it didn&#8217;t have all those extra parts attached.</p>
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		<title>By: Palamas</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2015/04/everything-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-2265206</link>
		<dc:creator>Palamas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2015 18:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mr. Harris betrays his own level of spiritual development when he writes, &quot;the efforts people make, through meditation, psychedelics, or other means, to fully bring their minds into the present or to induce nonordinary states of consciousness. And no other word links this spectrum of experience to our ethical lives&quot;.

Beginners (or dabblers or dilettantes who never invest enough time into it) perhaps may believe that the goal (or a goal) of contemplative spirituality (at least as articulated in the religions with established contemplative traditions) is a non-ordinary state of consciousness.

If the so-called &quot;spiritual but not religious&quot; folks are expecting to experience nirvana or theosis or whatever as a million hits of acid forever and ever they will be sorely disappointed.

If instead these folks were told that the end of the trail is an utterly and completely ORDINARY state of consciousness, would they rush en masse to the exits?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Harris betrays his own level of spiritual development when he writes, &#8220;the efforts people make, through meditation, psychedelics, or other means, to fully bring their minds into the present or to induce nonordinary states of consciousness. And no other word links this spectrum of experience to our ethical lives&#8221;.</p>
<p>Beginners (or dabblers or dilettantes who never invest enough time into it) perhaps may believe that the goal (or a goal) of contemplative spirituality (at least as articulated in the religions with established contemplative traditions) is a non-ordinary state of consciousness.</p>
<p>If the so-called &#8220;spiritual but not religious&#8221; folks are expecting to experience nirvana or theosis or whatever as a million hits of acid forever and ever they will be sorely disappointed.</p>
<p>If instead these folks were told that the end of the trail is an utterly and completely ORDINARY state of consciousness, would they rush en masse to the exits?</p>
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		<title>By: Graham</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2015/04/everything-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-2265135</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2015 16:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am not wholly opposed to the distinction between spiritual and religious, but I do think it has become too much of a cliché and depends on a pre-established definition of religion [hierarchical, doctrinal, usually Christian]. Most of what travels under the rubric of spirituality strikes me as either imported from another specific religion [Buddhism for preference] or generalized but still inherently religious in the sense of implying things about the nature of man and the universe that are outside the realm of science.

Worse, I do wonder at a strong advocate for not only an atheistic [narrowly defined as lacking a God-figure] but a secular/scientifically-based worldview now advocating as vigorously for concepts and in terms that cannot be situated purely in materialistic/scientific/naturalistic contexts. 

I am not opposed to the idea that there are these things. I hope and sometimes believe there are. But I marvel at the cognitive dissonance in the Harris position.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not wholly opposed to the distinction between spiritual and religious, but I do think it has become too much of a cliché and depends on a pre-established definition of religion [hierarchical, doctrinal, usually Christian]. Most of what travels under the rubric of spirituality strikes me as either imported from another specific religion [Buddhism for preference] or generalized but still inherently religious in the sense of implying things about the nature of man and the universe that are outside the realm of science.</p>
<p>Worse, I do wonder at a strong advocate for not only an atheistic [narrowly defined as lacking a God-figure] but a secular/scientifically-based worldview now advocating as vigorously for concepts and in terms that cannot be situated purely in materialistic/scientific/naturalistic contexts. </p>
<p>I am not opposed to the idea that there are these things. I hope and sometimes believe there are. But I marvel at the cognitive dissonance in the Harris position.</p>
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		<title>By: Handle</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2015/04/everything-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-2263133</link>
		<dc:creator>Handle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2015 01:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m a fair-weather Harris fan &#8212; good when talking sense about Islamism, bad when trying to reinvent &#039;scientific&#039; morality.  &lt;cite&gt;The Moral Landscape&lt;/cite&gt; had him bobbing and weaving in some sketchy maneuvers to try to avoid the fundamental philosophical question, and in &lt;cite&gt;Waking Up&lt;/cite&gt; he&#039;s not even trying anymore.  I gave up about halfway through: not worth it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a fair-weather Harris fan &mdash; good when talking sense about Islamism, bad when trying to reinvent &#8216;scientific&#8217; morality.  <cite>The Moral Landscape</cite> had him bobbing and weaving in some sketchy maneuvers to try to avoid the fundamental philosophical question, and in <cite>Waking Up</cite> he&#8217;s not even trying anymore.  I gave up about halfway through: not worth it.</p>
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		<title>By: S</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2015/04/everything-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-2262903</link>
		<dc:creator>S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2015 21:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[True happiness can only be found when true sadness and false happiness are defeated.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True happiness can only be found when true sadness and false happiness are defeated.</p>
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		<title>By: Aretae</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aretae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2015 17:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;true happiness and purpose must come from within&quot;

I think this is pretty aggressively wrong.

Inward facing-ness is just about the worst direction you can go for happiness. The better buddhist line is: &quot;true happiness comes when you don&#039;t allow the ego/self to get in your way.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;true happiness and purpose must come from within&#8221;</p>
<p>I think this is pretty aggressively wrong.</p>
<p>Inward facing-ness is just about the worst direction you can go for happiness. The better buddhist line is: &#8220;true happiness comes when you don&#8217;t allow the ego/self to get in your way.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2015/04/everything-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-2262498</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2015 14:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Christianity contains and corrects Buddhism.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christianity contains and corrects Buddhism.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2015 13:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I suppose returning to their parents&#039; or grandparents&#039; church is off the table.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose returning to their parents&#8217; or grandparents&#8217; church is off the table.</p>
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