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		<title>By: Slovenian Guest</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2014/12/enlightened-hard-boiled-ness/comment-page-1/#comment-2039686</link>
		<dc:creator>Slovenian Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2015 10:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The question if torture does or does not work is moot when according to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seton_Hall_reports&quot;&gt;Seton Hall reports&lt;/a&gt; most of the detainees in Guantanamo, 440 of 517 detainees (86%), appear to have been captured by bounty hunters in return for a $5,000 reward from the US for each prisoner, in a country where the annual wage for a good government job is around $1,000!

Perverted incentives on top of unintended consequences, sure, I&#039;ll turn in my neighbor for half a decade of wages.
The air force was even dropping pamphlets reading &quot;you can receive millions of dollars for helping catch Taliban&quot;...

Police departments for example don&#039;t like offering cash rewards and also discourage family members to do so, because It&#039;s counter productive.

How to extract useful information?
Step one, get an actual enemy!

What a mess, in the future they will refer to those two wars as the Biden wars, because everything that could be done wrong, was done wrong with gusto.
(For anyone not familiar, that&#039;s the running gag in DC, that Joe Biden is like a broken clock, wrong every-time, you can be on it.)

I guess the war planners shouldn&#039;t have given  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.isegoria.net/category/edward-luttwak/&quot;&gt;Edward Luttwak&lt;/a&gt; the boot, but he does sound crazy, the bad road is the good road because it&#039;s the bad road... get out of there!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The question if torture does or does not work is moot when according to the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seton_Hall_reports">Seton Hall reports</a> most of the detainees in Guantanamo, 440 of 517 detainees (86%), appear to have been captured by bounty hunters in return for a $5,000 reward from the US for each prisoner, in a country where the annual wage for a good government job is around $1,000!</p>
<p>Perverted incentives on top of unintended consequences, sure, I&#8217;ll turn in my neighbor for half a decade of wages.<br />
The air force was even dropping pamphlets reading &#8220;you can receive millions of dollars for helping catch Taliban&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>Police departments for example don&#8217;t like offering cash rewards and also discourage family members to do so, because It&#8217;s counter productive.</p>
<p>How to extract useful information?<br />
Step one, get an actual enemy!</p>
<p>What a mess, in the future they will refer to those two wars as the Biden wars, because everything that could be done wrong, was done wrong with gusto.<br />
(For anyone not familiar, that&#8217;s the running gag in DC, that Joe Biden is like a broken clock, wrong every-time, you can be on it.)</p>
<p>I guess the war planners shouldn&#8217;t have given  <a href="http://www.isegoria.net/category/edward-luttwak/">Edward Luttwak</a> the boot, but he does sound crazy, the bad road is the good road because it&#8217;s the bad road&#8230; get out of there!</p>
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		<title>By: Bert E.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bert E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2014 19:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interrogation methods and techniques that will work in one war will not necessarily be so successful in a subsequent war when faced with another adversary whose mindset and culture is different.

American interrogators prior to 9/11 had been told that in most cases 95 % of prisoners would readily talk and reveal information. The terrorist captive not only does not talk but spits in your eye and almost in 100 % of the instances.

They are not SO MUCH AFRAID OF YOU AS YOU MUST BE AFRAID OF THEM!!

That language problem is a difficulty with the Arab in particular. And you have to be careful of the Arabic translator who might have a degree of sympathy for the captive. Bad instance of the Chinese interrogator Larry Wu Tai Chin prolonged the Korean War by as much as a year due to his deliberate mistranslations of interrogations.

The U.S. has a significant population of native Arabic speakers in this country but refuses to use them as they are Christian. A valuable asset totally denied.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interrogation methods and techniques that will work in one war will not necessarily be so successful in a subsequent war when faced with another adversary whose mindset and culture is different.</p>
<p>American interrogators prior to 9/11 had been told that in most cases 95 % of prisoners would readily talk and reveal information. The terrorist captive not only does not talk but spits in your eye and almost in 100 % of the instances.</p>
<p>They are not SO MUCH AFRAID OF YOU AS YOU MUST BE AFRAID OF THEM!!</p>
<p>That language problem is a difficulty with the Arab in particular. And you have to be careful of the Arabic translator who might have a degree of sympathy for the captive. Bad instance of the Chinese interrogator Larry Wu Tai Chin prolonged the Korean War by as much as a year due to his deliberate mistranslations of interrogations.</p>
<p>The U.S. has a significant population of native Arabic speakers in this country but refuses to use them as they are Christian. A valuable asset totally denied.</p>
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