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		<title>By: Scipio Americanus</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2014/12/a-new-laser-age/comment-page-1/#comment-1980733</link>
		<dc:creator>Scipio Americanus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2014 13:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also, the laser is not a parallel beam but a cone focused at the target. A weapons-grade laser, at the target, isn&#039;t much reflected by mirrors; the intensity of energy deposition is such that it burns through them. The shorter the laser pulse and the smaller the spot size at the target (for a given energy), the more pronounced this effect is. ABM lasers do have to deal with reflective surfaces as a defense because their targets are so far away that it&#039;s hard to focus the beam down to a point. 

Even if it did work, coating a mortar round in lab-grade mirrors that can survive being fired from a mortar tube (probably some sort of sabot approach would do the trick) already represents a tremendous amount of virtual attrition.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, the laser is not a parallel beam but a cone focused at the target. A weapons-grade laser, at the target, isn&#8217;t much reflected by mirrors; the intensity of energy deposition is such that it burns through them. The shorter the laser pulse and the smaller the spot size at the target (for a given energy), the more pronounced this effect is. ABM lasers do have to deal with reflective surfaces as a defense because their targets are so far away that it&#8217;s hard to focus the beam down to a point. </p>
<p>Even if it did work, coating a mortar round in lab-grade mirrors that can survive being fired from a mortar tube (probably some sort of sabot approach would do the trick) already represents a tremendous amount of virtual attrition.</p>
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		<title>By: Candide III</title>
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		<dc:creator>Candide III</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2014 08:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Probably neither, you need high-quality precision optics for that. I don&#039;t think it&#039;s easy to make precision optics robust enough to shoot it from a mortar. The laws of physics don&#039;t prohibit it, but the round will probably be very expensive. Also, it&#039;s difficult to damage a laser by reflecting its light back into it, since a laser is already reflecting most of its light within itself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probably neither, you need high-quality precision optics for that. I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s easy to make precision optics robust enough to shoot it from a mortar. The laws of physics don&#8217;t prohibit it, but the round will probably be very expensive. Also, it&#8217;s difficult to damage a laser by reflecting its light back into it, since a laser is already reflecting most of its light within itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Alrenous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alrenous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2014 06:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If I cover a mortar round in retroreflectors, will it substantially damage the laser or just end up blinding everyone near the truck?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I cover a mortar round in retroreflectors, will it substantially damage the laser or just end up blinding everyone near the truck?</p>
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		<title>By: Scipio Americanus</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2014/12/a-new-laser-age/comment-page-1/#comment-1978456</link>
		<dc:creator>Scipio Americanus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2014 00:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As always, there is no defense that cannot be saturated. The question comes down to relative effectiveness, which shifts with technological developments and the dance of countermeasure, countercountermeasure, etc. Also keep in mind the importance of virtual attrition - rounds aimed at defenses are yet more rounds deducted from those aimed at what&#039;s being defended. 

The ABL was designed to knock down boosting ICBMs hundreds of km away, and used complicated, high-power, and somewhat outdated technology for the actual beam generation. The lasers being discussed for deployment as point-defense in the next decade are solid-state laser diode units designed to knock down artillery and mortar shells from &lt;1 km away in rapid succession.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As always, there is no defense that cannot be saturated. The question comes down to relative effectiveness, which shifts with technological developments and the dance of countermeasure, countercountermeasure, etc. Also keep in mind the importance of virtual attrition &#8211; rounds aimed at defenses are yet more rounds deducted from those aimed at what&#8217;s being defended. </p>
<p>The ABL was designed to knock down boosting ICBMs hundreds of km away, and used complicated, high-power, and somewhat outdated technology for the actual beam generation. The lasers being discussed for deployment as point-defense in the next decade are solid-state laser diode units designed to knock down artillery and mortar shells from &lt;1 km away in rapid succession.</p>
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		<title>By: Alrenous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alrenous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2014 22:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lasers favour ground troops &#8212; unless they&#039;re so expensive the best way to take out an anti-missile laser is two missiles. 747-sized means a lot of metal, which means a lot of dollars. It also means a large, stationary target, meaning the missile can accelerate without limit, as it doesn&#039;t need to manoeuvre.

Tomahawks cost 1.6 million and probably aren&#039;t even the most efficient option. Tanks are 6-9 million. The laser is probably more like the 747 it fits inside, a couple hundred million. 

As for the truck-mounted one, the cheaper 120mm mortar rounds are $100-$200 each. Fire five of them at once? Hope your laser truck had insurance.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lasers favour ground troops &mdash; unless they&#8217;re so expensive the best way to take out an anti-missile laser is two missiles. 747-sized means a lot of metal, which means a lot of dollars. It also means a large, stationary target, meaning the missile can accelerate without limit, as it doesn&#8217;t need to manoeuvre.</p>
<p>Tomahawks cost 1.6 million and probably aren&#8217;t even the most efficient option. Tanks are 6-9 million. The laser is probably more like the 747 it fits inside, a couple hundred million. </p>
<p>As for the truck-mounted one, the cheaper 120mm mortar rounds are $100-$200 each. Fire five of them at once? Hope your laser truck had insurance.</p>
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		<title>By: J.D. Saunders</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.D. Saunders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2014 03:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The world of David Drake&#039;s &lt;cite&gt;Hammer&#039;s Slammers&lt;/cite&gt; made real. All that&#039;s missing are the fusion-powered hovertanks, and the Helion Energy Fusion Engine is closing the gap on even that.

Aircraft die. First time, every time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The world of David Drake&#8217;s <cite>Hammer&#8217;s Slammers</cite> made real. All that&#8217;s missing are the fusion-powered hovertanks, and the Helion Energy Fusion Engine is closing the gap on even that.</p>
<p>Aircraft die. First time, every time.</p>
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		<title>By: Isegoria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Isegoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2014 01:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Their chief limitation is how they interact with a simple &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.isegoria.net/2013/12/dune/&quot;&gt;Holtzman shield&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Their chief limitation is how they interact with a simple <a href="http://www.isegoria.net/2013/12/dune/">Holtzman shield</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Scipio Americanus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scipio Americanus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2014 23:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That is indeed a limitation, Andreas, but your enemy has to send something closer than the horizon to hurt you. Thus, while lasers aren&#039;t necessarily ideal for long-range offensive applications, the current rate of development is likely to see them become very important for defensive purposes over the next 20 years or so.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is indeed a limitation, Andreas, but your enemy has to send something closer than the horizon to hurt you. Thus, while lasers aren&#8217;t necessarily ideal for long-range offensive applications, the current rate of development is likely to see them become very important for defensive purposes over the next 20 years or so.</p>
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		<title>By: Andreas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andreas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2014 21:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lasers can not strike anything beyond the horizon.  

One might expand that horizon to nearly half of the planet with space-platform lasers.  They might make sense at some point, but it seems they would remain vulnerable to any ground based laser that could see them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lasers can not strike anything beyond the horizon.  </p>
<p>One might expand that horizon to nearly half of the planet with space-platform lasers.  They might make sense at some point, but it seems they would remain vulnerable to any ground based laser that could see them.</p>
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