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	<title>Comments on: Vote all you want. The secret government won’t change.</title>
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		<title>By: Candide III</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2014/10/vote-all-you-want-the-secret-government-wont-change/comment-page-1/#comment-1749963</link>
		<dc:creator>Candide III</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2014 14:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Coyote: more harm than good (to them) is apt to come out of any rube action informed by the level of understanding exemplified by the phrase &quot;them that has the gold makes the rules&quot;. It is totally insufficient. The various European &#039;right-wing&#039; movements are prime examples. You get powerless seething and posturing, shadowboxing with century-old ghosts of the great oligarchs and Jews. Can&#039;t even level up to National Socialism, not only because attempts would get squashed faster than they appeared (actually I&#039;m doubtful whether this would be the case, but that&#039;s a different story) but primarily because the intellectual prowess and organizational capital isn&#039;t there anymore.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coyote: more harm than good (to them) is apt to come out of any rube action informed by the level of understanding exemplified by the phrase &#8220;them that has the gold makes the rules&#8221;. It is totally insufficient. The various European &#8216;right-wing&#8217; movements are prime examples. You get powerless seething and posturing, shadowboxing with century-old ghosts of the great oligarchs and Jews. Can&#8217;t even level up to National Socialism, not only because attempts would get squashed faster than they appeared (actually I&#8217;m doubtful whether this would be the case, but that&#8217;s a different story) but primarily because the intellectual prowess and organizational capital isn&#8217;t there anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Coyote</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2014/10/vote-all-you-want-the-secret-government-wont-change/comment-page-1/#comment-1746612</link>
		<dc:creator>Coyote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2014 02:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We redneck rubes read real news too: &quot;shadow government&quot; is a fatuous new euphemism for an eternal truth — the golden rule has always meant &quot;them that has the gold makes the rules&quot;, and more &quot;rubes&quot; have known this throughout history than all the overeducated idiots dreaming of &quot;social justice&quot;, or that fancy words will fend off the collisions ahead.  This puppy is going down like the Titanic, and you best already be in a lifeboat, ready with your paddle to fend off the many swimmers who were unprepared. Thanks, Isegoria, for the many links to the interesting &quot;paddles&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We redneck rubes read real news too: &#8220;shadow government&#8221; is a fatuous new euphemism for an eternal truth — the golden rule has always meant &#8220;them that has the gold makes the rules&#8221;, and more &#8220;rubes&#8221; have known this throughout history than all the overeducated idiots dreaming of &#8220;social justice&#8221;, or that fancy words will fend off the collisions ahead.  This puppy is going down like the Titanic, and you best already be in a lifeboat, ready with your paddle to fend off the many swimmers who were unprepared. Thanks, Isegoria, for the many links to the interesting &#8220;paddles&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2014 03:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ll have to check out Bagehot — lots of his stuff on &lt;a href=&quot;https://archive.org/search.php?query=walter%20bagehot%20AND%20collection%3Aamericana&quot;&gt;archive.org&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll have to check out Bagehot — lots of his stuff on <a href="https://archive.org/search.php?query=walter%20bagehot%20AND%20collection%3Aamericana">archive.org</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Candide III</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2014/10/vote-all-you-want-the-secret-government-wont-change/comment-page-1/#comment-1734503</link>
		<dc:creator>Candide III</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2014 09:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I understand the Cathedral would like nothing better than finally bust Defense and Security, but is it smart to draw attention to how USG really works? Although, as seen in the comments, most readers of Boston Globe (a prime Cathedral newspaper) will not notice the analogies or believe the idea that the rest of the government also works this way, and the rednecks and rubes don&#039;t read it anyway.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand the Cathedral would like nothing better than finally bust Defense and Security, but is it smart to draw attention to how USG really works? Although, as seen in the comments, most readers of Boston Globe (a prime Cathedral newspaper) will not notice the analogies or believe the idea that the rest of the government also works this way, and the rednecks and rubes don&#8217;t read it anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Alrenous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alrenous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2014 22:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Um what?

&lt;blockquote&gt;Why would policy makers hand over the national-security keys to unelected officials?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Ha! No, it&#039;s entirely on purpose, precisely &lt;i&gt;because&lt;/i&gt; they&#039;re elected. You create an office, and give it your power, then hire your buddies. When you inevitably get ousted your buddies hire you, and you get most if not all your power back, only without what &#039;oversight&#039; voting provides.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um what?</p>
<blockquote><p>Why would policy makers hand over the national-security keys to unelected officials?</p></blockquote>
<p>Ha! No, it&#8217;s entirely on purpose, precisely <i>because</i> they&#8217;re elected. You create an office, and give it your power, then hire your buddies. When you inevitably get ousted your buddies hire you, and you get most if not all your power back, only without what &#8216;oversight&#8217; voting provides.</p>
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		<title>By: Toddy Cat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toddy Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2014 16:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I was curious why a president such as Barack Obama would embrace the very same national security and counterterrorism policies that he campaigned eloquently against.&quot;

The idea that Obama was just another corrupt, lying swine of a corporately-owned politician obviously just doesn&#039;t enter this guy&#039;s head.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I was curious why a president such as Barack Obama would embrace the very same national security and counterterrorism policies that he campaigned eloquently against.&#8221;</p>
<p>The idea that Obama was just another corrupt, lying swine of a corporately-owned politician obviously just doesn&#8217;t enter this guy&#8217;s head.</p>
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