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	<title>Comments on: How the Left &#8220;Blew It&#8221; on Gun Control</title>
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		<title>By: Marc Pisco</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2014/09/how-the-left-blew-it-on-gun-control/comment-page-1/#comment-1565280</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Pisco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2014 19:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All the Democrat gun owners I know here in southern Maine favor universal background checks. This guy probably mostly hangs out with like-minded people. 

Democrat gun owners seem to think its a fun hobby that they enjoy, but the already quit smoking and they can grudgingly live with guns eventually being banned. Their self-identification as obedient Democrats is where their heart is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All the Democrat gun owners I know here in southern Maine favor universal background checks. This guy probably mostly hangs out with like-minded people. </p>
<p>Democrat gun owners seem to think its a fun hobby that they enjoy, but the already quit smoking and they can grudgingly live with guns eventually being banned. Their self-identification as obedient Democrats is where their heart is.</p>
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		<title>By: RL</title>
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		<dc:creator>RL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2014 17:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Baum says he&#039;s met very few gun owners who oppose background checks.  Probably very few who don&#039;t feel that making a big deal about it sounds paranoid, but consider:  The law setting up the background check system stipulates that personally identifying records of the background check, if passed, are supposed to be destroyed.  Back during the Clinton Administration (i.e., immediately after the law was passed), the government argued that &quot;destroyed&quot; meant &quot;destroyed eventually,&quot; and adopted regs allowing the records to be kept for six months.  For quality control purposes, you know.  NRA sued, and the case went away after the 2000 elections, when a new administration adopted new regulations requiring the personally identifying data to be destroyed by the next business day.  

Frankly, I&#039;m kind of surprised the Obama admin hasn&#039;t tried to change that back, but in the NSA era, they&#039;ve probably just decided to ignore their own administrative rule and just maintain the data in a database indefinitely.  You never know when data like that might turn out to be useful, after all.  Also, if the IRS email &quot;destruction&quot; scandal tells us anything, it tells us that nobody is ever going to call them out on it.  

That&#039;s the real reason for the push for &quot;universal background checks,&quot; of course.  A full nationwide registration of transfer system, that will become a full nationwide registration system within a generation, with plenty of opportunity to prosecute people who don&#039;t comply with the record-keeping.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baum says he&#8217;s met very few gun owners who oppose background checks.  Probably very few who don&#8217;t feel that making a big deal about it sounds paranoid, but consider:  The law setting up the background check system stipulates that personally identifying records of the background check, if passed, are supposed to be destroyed.  Back during the Clinton Administration (i.e., immediately after the law was passed), the government argued that &#8220;destroyed&#8221; meant &#8220;destroyed eventually,&#8221; and adopted regs allowing the records to be kept for six months.  For quality control purposes, you know.  NRA sued, and the case went away after the 2000 elections, when a new administration adopted new regulations requiring the personally identifying data to be destroyed by the next business day.  </p>
<p>Frankly, I&#8217;m kind of surprised the Obama admin hasn&#8217;t tried to change that back, but in the NSA era, they&#8217;ve probably just decided to ignore their own administrative rule and just maintain the data in a database indefinitely.  You never know when data like that might turn out to be useful, after all.  Also, if the IRS email &#8220;destruction&#8221; scandal tells us anything, it tells us that nobody is ever going to call them out on it.  </p>
<p>That&#8217;s the real reason for the push for &#8220;universal background checks,&#8221; of course.  A full nationwide registration of transfer system, that will become a full nationwide registration system within a generation, with plenty of opportunity to prosecute people who don&#8217;t comply with the record-keeping.</p>
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		<title>By: Toddy Cat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toddy Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2014 13:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On many issues, the Left simply does not have any idea as to what they are talking about. Of course, that  doesn&#039;t stop them. I&#039;ve seen 21 year old Liberal Arts majors who have not a scintilla of real world experience lecture Generals on military tactics, firearms experts on guns, seasoned diplomats on foreign relations, and people who have lived for decades in China on the proper role of the Party in Chinese politics. The hubris of these people is simply beyond belief.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On many issues, the Left simply does not have any idea as to what they are talking about. Of course, that  doesn&#8217;t stop them. I&#8217;ve seen 21 year old Liberal Arts majors who have not a scintilla of real world experience lecture Generals on military tactics, firearms experts on guns, seasoned diplomats on foreign relations, and people who have lived for decades in China on the proper role of the Party in Chinese politics. The hubris of these people is simply beyond belief.</p>
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		<title>By: Bert E.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bert E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2014 00:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, thank you Mr. Baum for telling us exactly what the left thinks of the decent citizen in this country. 

And the left not only will not say one bad word about a minority but will say a lot of bad things about the gun owner, and will endlessly chastise anyone who will say a single truth about the minority.

Personally, I think the left has not only blown it on gun control but just about everything else the decent citizen in our country feels is right and just.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, thank you Mr. Baum for telling us exactly what the left thinks of the decent citizen in this country. </p>
<p>And the left not only will not say one bad word about a minority but will say a lot of bad things about the gun owner, and will endlessly chastise anyone who will say a single truth about the minority.</p>
<p>Personally, I think the left has not only blown it on gun control but just about everything else the decent citizen in our country feels is right and just.</p>
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		<title>By: Cassander</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cassander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2014 19:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m always amazed at how utterly ignorant pro-gun control people can be about guns.  I expect most people to be ignorant about most politics most of the time, that&#039;s a given, but when you see people that are employed as anti-gun activists get confused over the difference between semi-automatics and revolvers, or who can&#039;t explain exactly what the assault guns they&#039;re trying to ban are, well it&#039;s baffling.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m always amazed at how utterly ignorant pro-gun control people can be about guns.  I expect most people to be ignorant about most politics most of the time, that&#8217;s a given, but when you see people that are employed as anti-gun activists get confused over the difference between semi-automatics and revolvers, or who can&#8217;t explain exactly what the assault guns they&#8217;re trying to ban are, well it&#8217;s baffling.</p>
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