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	<title>Comments on: Ajax Gun Shield</title>
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		<title>By: Wanderer</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2014/06/ajax-gun-shield/comment-page-1/#comment-1315816</link>
		<dc:creator>Wanderer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2014 14:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sven over at Defense and Freedom has &lt;a href=&quot;http://defense-and-freedom.blogspot.com/2014/06/snake-oil-and-gun-shields.html&quot;&gt;a different take&lt;/a&gt; and some additional links on this gun shield idea.  The PDF he links is worth looking over.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sven over at Defense and Freedom has <a href="http://defense-and-freedom.blogspot.com/2014/06/snake-oil-and-gun-shields.html">a different take</a> and some additional links on this gun shield idea.  The PDF he links is worth looking over.</p>
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		<title>By: Isegoria</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2014/06/ajax-gun-shield/comment-page-1/#comment-1315695</link>
		<dc:creator>Isegoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2014 13:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When someone says the new American helmet &#8212; the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enhanced_Combat_Helmet_(United_States)&quot;&gt;Enhanced Combat Helmet&lt;/a&gt; &#8212; can stop a 7.62 round, I don&#039;t know why you&#039;d reply that it can&#039;t stop a &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7.62%C3%9751mm_NATO&quot;&gt;7.62×51 NATO&lt;/a&gt; round, when it &lt;em&gt;can&lt;/em&gt; stop our enemies&#039; primary round, the Soviet &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7.62x39mm&quot;&gt;7.62×39&lt;/a&gt;, fired from the iconic AK.

Anyway, noting that a couple trauma plates mounted on rails can&#039;t match a dedicated steel gun shield mounted on a vehicle is a bit like noting that a PC can&#039;t do a mainframe&#039;s job.  This is a cheap, flexible option for troops who don&#039;t have a giant steel gun shield.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When someone says the new American helmet &mdash; the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enhanced_Combat_Helmet_(United_States)">Enhanced Combat Helmet</a> &mdash; can stop a 7.62 round, I don&#8217;t know why you&#8217;d reply that it can&#8217;t stop a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7.62%C3%9751mm_NATO">7.62×51 NATO</a> round, when it <em>can</em> stop our enemies&#8217; primary round, the Soviet <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7.62x39mm">7.62×39</a>, fired from the iconic AK.</p>
<p>Anyway, noting that a couple trauma plates mounted on rails can&#8217;t match a dedicated steel gun shield mounted on a vehicle is a bit like noting that a PC can&#8217;t do a mainframe&#8217;s job.  This is a cheap, flexible option for troops who don&#8217;t have a giant steel gun shield.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Sykes</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2014/06/ajax-gun-shield/comment-page-1/#comment-1315514</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Sykes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2014 11:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Depending on the spring resistance, any 7.62 kind of impact on the plate will likely take the rifle out of the soldier&#039;s grasp and might injure the soldier.

Does not look like a good idea.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Depending on the spring resistance, any 7.62 kind of impact on the plate will likely take the rifle out of the soldier&#8217;s grasp and might injure the soldier.</p>
<p>Does not look like a good idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny Abacus</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2014/06/ajax-gun-shield/comment-page-1/#comment-1314359</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnny Abacus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2014 19:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Without Ajax and despite the Kevlar helmet (also able to stop 7.62mm bullets)...&quot;

Helmets can&#039;t stop 7.62x51 bullets in any meaningful sense.  They are generally rated as class IIIA protection.

&quot;Ajax is meant mainly for troops on the defense (like guarding a base) or those on vehicles or boats.&quot;

This means that Ajax is pretty much useless.  Anyone who wants protection of this sort generally has a steel shield that attaches to the pivot point instead of the gun (and therefore can be much more substantial), that the gun locks into.  These are pretty easy to manufacture out of 1/2 steel plate and much more robust than any sort of kevlar pop out plates (&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_shield#mediaviewer/File:Us_machine_gunner.jpg&quot;&gt;example&lt;/a&gt;).
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Without Ajax and despite the Kevlar helmet (also able to stop 7.62mm bullets)&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Helmets can&#8217;t stop 7.62&#215;51 bullets in any meaningful sense.  They are generally rated as class IIIA protection.</p>
<p>&#8220;Ajax is meant mainly for troops on the defense (like guarding a base) or those on vehicles or boats.&#8221;</p>
<p>This means that Ajax is pretty much useless.  Anyone who wants protection of this sort generally has a steel shield that attaches to the pivot point instead of the gun (and therefore can be much more substantial), that the gun locks into.  These are pretty easy to manufacture out of 1/2 steel plate and much more robust than any sort of kevlar pop out plates (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_shield#mediaviewer/File:Us_machine_gunner.jpg">example</a>).</p>
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