Comments on: Human capital or signaling? No, doing the Right Thing!

By: Aretae

Aretae — Thu, 08 May 2014 14:00:53 +0000

And by “Caplan might call that signaling conformity,” you mean “Caplan has called that signaling conformity,” right?

Props to Alrenous for the winning comment.

By: T. Greer

T. Greer — Wed, 07 May 2014 19:04:24 +0000

Handle’s got it. Change “doing the right thing” to “just following the plan” might be a more accurate way to phrase things. People go to college because that is just what you are expected to do.

By: Handle

Handle — Wed, 07 May 2014 15:49:22 +0000

What a fascinating variance of experience. Either we have a genuine case of “reality segregation” or we’re interpreting the terms differently, especially “do the right thing” and “signaling”.

By: Toddy Cat

Toddy Cat — Wed, 07 May 2014 13:31:08 +0000

I’m not sure about any of this, but I do know that any idea coming from Bryan Caplan has to be assumed false until proven true. The guy is like a compass pointing south. He may be right about this, but that’s not the way to bet. Personally, I went to college to party, to meet girls, and because my parents wanted me to, and I think that I was pretty typical of my generation. Maybe kids today are different.

By: Alrenous

Alrenous — Wed, 07 May 2014 06:40:03 +0000

I don’t see how they’re in conflict. What does a cynical Hansonian hypocrite hoop-jumper feel like from the inside? Feels like Doing the Right Thing.

The proportion that can consciously hoop-jump at that age is about the same as can consciously pursue their passion.

By: Spandrell

Spandrell — Wed, 07 May 2014 00:04:10 +0000

Really? This describes me and everyone I knew at college.

Who is that serious and conscientious to really think about signaling at 18 years old? I sure wasn’t. We went to college because that’s what people do. The signaling thing does come up, but later when you need to rationalize what the hell you’re doing studying all that stuff.

By: Handle

Handle — Tue, 06 May 2014 23:22:13 +0000

This describes precisely zero percent of the people with whom I’ve spent my very ample time in school. Instead, I see Caplan’s bimodal dichotomy into cynical signaling box-checkers and hoop-jumpers on the one hand, and genuinely passionate lovers of learning and the life of the mind on the other.

You see the same thing in the world of work. There are the time-servers who are doing the minimum it takes to squeak by, cutting corners where they can, celebrating unexpected days off, counting the days until retirement, etc. And then there are the go-getters who may not really care about their vocation, but are trying to brown-nose, make a good impression, get the promotion, etc. in order to get money and status but who, if they won the lottery tomorrow, would immediately quit. And finally there are the folks who truly love their profession and can’t believe their luck that they get paid to do what they do, which they would do for subsistence wages, and which would also be their hobby. Indeed, they keep right on doing it until they either die or are forced into retirement.

Nobody looks at the motivations of the pool of workers and mentions ‘karma’, or ‘doing the right thing’. What a ridiculous and absurd psychological theory. And lots of students look at school as ‘mandatory work’ as an annoying step on the path to doing what they really want to achieve in life, instead of ‘enjoyable self-development’ that is good for its own sake.

By: CMOT

CMOT — Tue, 06 May 2014 19:56:47 +0000

Let’s be honest and call if a Cargo Cult.