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	<title>Comments on: Infant IQ Tests Predict Scores in School</title>
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		<title>By: Gwern</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gwern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2014 02:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Guy, it&#039;s hard to say without reading the original research.  There&#039;s a lot that could be going on, including insufficient power. I mean: typically, it&#039;s harder statistically to conclude anything group differences than to conclude something about the whole sample; that is, one would expect it to be easier to confirm that the infant test predict future school scores than to confirm that, say, East Asian babies score higher than white babies (either on the original test or at the followup).

So what could easily be happening here is that the data turns in the usual Asian &gt; white &gt; hispanic &gt; black ranking but there&#039;s not enough babies in the sample to find group differences at p &lt; 0.05, and the researchers are simply ignoring the point-values because they&#039;re not forced to admit the differences are there.

This is completely consistent with the claims made in the article, and just one of the potential tricks or stories going on here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guy, it&#8217;s hard to say without reading the original research.  There&#8217;s a lot that could be going on, including insufficient power. I mean: typically, it&#8217;s harder statistically to conclude anything group differences than to conclude something about the whole sample; that is, one would expect it to be easier to confirm that the infant test predict future school scores than to confirm that, say, East Asian babies score higher than white babies (either on the original test or at the followup).</p>
<p>So what could easily be happening here is that the data turns in the usual Asian &gt; white &gt; hispanic &gt; black ranking but there&#8217;s not enough babies in the sample to find group differences at p &lt; 0.05, and the researchers are simply ignoring the point-values because they&#039;re not forced to admit the differences are there.</p>
<p>This is completely consistent with the claims made in the article, and just one of the potential tricks or stories going on here.</p>
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		<title>By: Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2014 21:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;...babies from widely different cultural backgrounds performed equally well on his test.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

In the same percentages?  If not, &quot;Individual smart baby is smart regardless of race,&quot; isn&#039;t all that controversial is it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8230;babies from widely different cultural backgrounds performed equally well on his test.</p></blockquote>
<p>In the same percentages?  If not, &#8220;Individual smart baby is smart regardless of race,&#8221; isn&#8217;t all that controversial is it?</p>
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