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		<title>By: Tschafer</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2013/11/inequality-is-here-to-stay/comment-page-1/#comment-1020268</link>
		<dc:creator>Tschafer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Nov 2013 20:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Today’s workplaces are often more complicated than, say, a factory for General Motors was in 1962&quot;

I&#039;d like to stick Cowen in a GM factory in 1962, and see how well he could perform this &quot;simple&quot; work. Arrogant buffoon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Today’s workplaces are often more complicated than, say, a factory for General Motors was in 1962&#8243;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to stick Cowen in a GM factory in 1962, and see how well he could perform this &#8220;simple&#8221; work. Arrogant buffoon.</p>
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		<title>By: Alrenous</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2013/11/inequality-is-here-to-stay/comment-page-1/#comment-1019575</link>
		<dc:creator>Alrenous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Nov 2013 03:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cowen missed very many opportunities to bring up government. It&#039;s not like he was strapped for space.

A: Government is growing exponentially. (Though still in the x &lt; 1 regime, if barely.) 

B: Government transferred from poor to rich in every instance we have comprehensive data. 

So was he strapped for historical literacy, or for integrity?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cowen missed very many opportunities to bring up government. It&#8217;s not like he was strapped for space.</p>
<p>A: Government is growing exponentially. (Though still in the x &lt; 1 regime, if barely.) </p>
<p>B: Government transferred from poor to rich in every instance we have comprehensive data. </p>
<p>So was he strapped for historical literacy, or for integrity?</p>
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		<title>By: David Foster</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Foster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Nov 2013 21:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also: &quot;They require higher skills&quot;

Automation does not always require higher skills; quite often, it leads to de-skilling. One example is a cashier, who not so long ago had to be able to do simple math.  Now, many of them are lost if the &lt;abbr title=&quot;Point of Sale&quot;&gt;POS&lt;/abbr&gt; terminal can&#039;t do their calculations for them. Another example: in a factory, running a CNC machine tool (that has been programmed by someone else) is generally a lower-skill job than operating a manual machine tool. Finally, being a manager in a chain retail store where inventory &amp; ordering are handled centrally (by automated ordering systems with some input from centralized buyers at HQ) is a lower-skill job than being a manager in a retail store where the manager has to manage inventory control directly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also: &#8220;They require higher skills&#8221;</p>
<p>Automation does not always require higher skills; quite often, it leads to de-skilling. One example is a cashier, who not so long ago had to be able to do simple math.  Now, many of them are lost if the <abbr title="Point of Sale">POS</abbr> terminal can&#8217;t do their calculations for them. Another example: in a factory, running a CNC machine tool (that has been programmed by someone else) is generally a lower-skill job than operating a manual machine tool. Finally, being a manager in a chain retail store where inventory &amp; ordering are handled centrally (by automated ordering systems with some input from centralized buyers at HQ) is a lower-skill job than being a manager in a retail store where the manager has to manage inventory control directly.</p>
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		<title>By: David Foster</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Foster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Nov 2013 21:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Contemplationist, yeah, I understand his point. I don&#039;t agree with it. The fact that I can measure, say, a call-center operator, on 33 different criteria really isn&#039;t going to do anything for the quality of customer service I&#039;m delivering, and may indeed be counterproductive to it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Contemplationist, yeah, I understand his point. I don&#8217;t agree with it. The fact that I can measure, say, a call-center operator, on 33 different criteria really isn&#8217;t going to do anything for the quality of customer service I&#8217;m delivering, and may indeed be counterproductive to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Contemplationist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Contemplationist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Nov 2013 20:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[David, 

His point is that, on the margin, the measurements are going to get more detailed; their granularity will increase. This is going to increase wage dispersion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, </p>
<p>His point is that, on the margin, the measurements are going to get more detailed; their granularity will increase. This is going to increase wage dispersion.</p>
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		<title>By: David Foster</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2013/11/inequality-is-here-to-stay/comment-page-1/#comment-1019108</link>
		<dc:creator>David Foster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Nov 2013 19:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was pretty unimpressed with the book and its arguments. Just to take one of Cowen&#039;s three points from the excerpt: &quot;The first is just measurement of worker value. We’re doing a lot to measure what workers are contributing to businesses, and, when you do that, very often you end up paying some people less and other people more.&quot;

People have been measuring &quot;what workers are contributing&quot; for a long, long time. Did Tyler never hear of piecework? Of sales commissions? Of profit-based bonuses for regional or division executives? All of these things are very old hat.

Indeed, quite a few manufacturers have decided that it is unwise to take the quantitative measurement of performance down to an individual level, in cases where the work is being done by a closely-coupled team.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was pretty unimpressed with the book and its arguments. Just to take one of Cowen&#8217;s three points from the excerpt: &#8220;The first is just measurement of worker value. We’re doing a lot to measure what workers are contributing to businesses, and, when you do that, very often you end up paying some people less and other people more.&#8221;</p>
<p>People have been measuring &#8220;what workers are contributing&#8221; for a long, long time. Did Tyler never hear of piecework? Of sales commissions? Of profit-based bonuses for regional or division executives? All of these things are very old hat.</p>
<p>Indeed, quite a few manufacturers have decided that it is unwise to take the quantitative measurement of performance down to an individual level, in cases where the work is being done by a closely-coupled team.</p>
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		<title>By: Scipio Americanus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scipio Americanus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Nov 2013 17:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am reminded of the first chapter of &lt;cite&gt;Snow Crash&lt;/cite&gt;, something about the average living approximating &quot;a Pakistani brickmaker&#039;s concept of prosperity.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am reminded of the first chapter of <cite>Snow Crash</cite>, something about the average living approximating &#8220;a Pakistani brickmaker&#8217;s concept of prosperity.&#8221;</p>
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