Comments on: Sick From Freedom

By: Alrenous

Alrenous — Sat, 28 Sep 2013 15:30:42 +0000

In this case, the slaves weren’t liberated. The abolitionists never asked the blacks if they wanted off. Rather, they decided that the problem of forcing the blacks onto the plantations was best solved by forcing them off. What the blacks wanted was irrelevant to all parties.

Chaos equals delta power, and chaos leads to mass death.

By: Abelard Lindsey

Abelard Lindsey — Thu, 26 Sep 2013 22:30:45 +0000

I think such is inevitable.

By: Isegoria

Isegoria — Thu, 26 Sep 2013 18:30:15 +0000

I don’t think the State needs any Dark Enlightenment arguments to seize power.

I think the system could move toward the seemingly disparate goals of both libertarians and reactionaries by introducing parole-like conditions for those accepting welfare benefits.

By: Abelard Lindsey

Abelard Lindsey — Thu, 26 Sep 2013 18:11:37 +0000

I read some of the tenets of the dark enlightenment on other websites. There is some basis for it. However, my problem with it is that it can easily be twisted around to justify restrictions of freedom of action on those of us who can handle freedom. This, of course, is unacceptable.

By: Isegoria

Isegoria — Thu, 26 Sep 2013 17:12:08 +0000

I think that’s a fair assessment, but I believe most members of the Dark Enlightenment, like most mainstream conservatives, would first like to see charity taken out of the hands of the faceless bureaucracy that won’t enforce ordinary decency.

Under the current system, the State subsidizes destructive behaviors — up to the point where it throws you in prison. We have no middle ground between subsidized freedom and incarceration.

By: Abelard Lindsey

Abelard Lindsey — Thu, 26 Sep 2013 16:51:32 +0000

I take it this is one of tenets of what is now being called the “dark” enlightenment. That there are some people, perhaps even a majority, that are either incapable of or unwilling to assume the burdens of freedom and autonomy and that some sort of social institution that allows them to exchange freedom for security is desirable for all parties.

By: Space Nookie

Space Nookie — Thu, 26 Sep 2013 16:40:02 +0000

I thought the linked article had a lot to say in that it candidly admits that historians want to tell particular stories and that inconvenient facts can be suppressed until a fresh interpretation (in this case, that racist white government didn’t do enough) makes them an “important new contribution”.

By: Bob Sykes

Bob Sykes — Thu, 26 Sep 2013 12:29:02 +0000

How many Southern white civilians died? One thinks especially of Sherman’s war crimes, which rival the German and Russian atrocities in the East.