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		<title>By: Legionnaire</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2013/08/they-werent-ever-taught/comment-page-1/#comment-923821</link>
		<dc:creator>Legionnaire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Aug 2013 21:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s not as much of a story as it may sound like.  Said friend went off to her assignment in a major city in Louisiana full of promise and hope.  She followed the pattern laid out above.  Her subject was English, so the issue was basic reading ability, grammar, and vocabulary, instead of fractions and addition, but the exact same progression followed regardless.  After a year, she had moved on to blaming her students.  With a little prodding from me, she came to believe that the issue wasn&#039;t a lack of student desire to learn, but a lack of ability.

Hearing similar stories from some of her &lt;abbr title=&quot;Teach For America&quot;&gt;TFA&lt;/abbr&gt; acquaintances led her to draw some horrifying conclusions about the universal nature of this problem.

She&#039;s a smart girl.  She quickly realized that the electorate in the US is increasingly being made up of people who cannot read and do math at a basic level.  She nearly had a breakdown thinking of all the possible implications of this.

She&#039;s not quite sold on actually enacting a controlled eugenics program in this country (and even I admit that without also increasing the reproductive rate of the 115+ IQ crowd any culling of the herd could only be effective up to a certain point), but on a theoretical level, she has come to view it as a good idea.

Something tells me that hers is not an isolated case.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s not as much of a story as it may sound like.  Said friend went off to her assignment in a major city in Louisiana full of promise and hope.  She followed the pattern laid out above.  Her subject was English, so the issue was basic reading ability, grammar, and vocabulary, instead of fractions and addition, but the exact same progression followed regardless.  After a year, she had moved on to blaming her students.  With a little prodding from me, she came to believe that the issue wasn&#8217;t a lack of student desire to learn, but a lack of ability.</p>
<p>Hearing similar stories from some of her <abbr title="Teach For America">TFA</abbr> acquaintances led her to draw some horrifying conclusions about the universal nature of this problem.</p>
<p>She&#8217;s a smart girl.  She quickly realized that the electorate in the US is increasingly being made up of people who cannot read and do math at a basic level.  She nearly had a breakdown thinking of all the possible implications of this.</p>
<p>She&#8217;s not quite sold on actually enacting a controlled eugenics program in this country (and even I admit that without also increasing the reproductive rate of the 115+ IQ crowd any culling of the herd could only be effective up to a certain point), but on a theoretical level, she has come to view it as a good idea.</p>
<p>Something tells me that hers is not an isolated case.</p>
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		<title>By: Alrenous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alrenous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Aug 2013 18:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I second Ross&#039; request.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I second Ross&#8217; request.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Kurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Aug 2013 18:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Three points re: They weren’t ever taught

1) Tracking and testing (IQ) is only hope in public education to save it*. If not done, the 106+ IQ parents will go private or home school as the USA&#039;s mean IQ descends inexorably toward the 80s and lower with the coming open borders, refugee resettlement and Catholic Charities&#039; ( and its ilk) drive to move black Africans to the USA en mass.

2) The author of this blog is demonstrating why Democracy is doomed. Here he shows the genesis of the &#039;low information voter&quot; and why the Democrat&#039;s are destined to ultimate victory resulting in the break-up of the American Experiment in self (popular) government. Aristotle called Democracy rule by Fools. How right he was as fools NEVER learn and democracy puts them in charge.

3) It is not only in the primary and secondary levels of schooling that the phenomenon of forgetting or unlearning occurs. The same process can be seen at the college and graduate level as well if one has taught at that level. I saw it in my short University teaching career. My son who has a Ph.D. in Mechanical Engineering was shocked to discover that same thing when as a Ph.D. student he taught 4th year Mechanical Engineering elective taking students Finite Element Analysis at a top 20 in the world University. He had 25 students taking the course for a quarter, circa 9 weeks. The first week he discovered that many of the students did not have the math or engineering background sufficient to do the work. He told his advisor in the department who was overseeing his teaching of the course that he planned to spend at least a week giving a math and physics review to refresh the class so that they could &quot;catch up&quot; so as to do the work. His advisor said to him: &quot;They had their chance. Your job is to teach the course on Finite Element Analysis not waste a week of the quarter of those who can do the work.&quot; My son taught the course and many of the students failed or got low grades as he expected. These were bright kids but even they forgot much of what they had been taught and passed in the previous three years. I have some hypotheses on this but now is not the time to go into it other than to say that it is IQ related and lack of drill/problem solving/writing is involved. 

Dan Kurt

*Assuming public education needs to saved.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Three points re: They weren’t ever taught</p>
<p>1) Tracking and testing (IQ) is only hope in public education to save it*. If not done, the 106+ IQ parents will go private or home school as the USA&#8217;s mean IQ descends inexorably toward the 80s and lower with the coming open borders, refugee resettlement and Catholic Charities&#8217; ( and its ilk) drive to move black Africans to the USA en mass.</p>
<p>2) The author of this blog is demonstrating why Democracy is doomed. Here he shows the genesis of the &#8216;low information voter&#8221; and why the Democrat&#8217;s are destined to ultimate victory resulting in the break-up of the American Experiment in self (popular) government. Aristotle called Democracy rule by Fools. How right he was as fools NEVER learn and democracy puts them in charge.</p>
<p>3) It is not only in the primary and secondary levels of schooling that the phenomenon of forgetting or unlearning occurs. The same process can be seen at the college and graduate level as well if one has taught at that level. I saw it in my short University teaching career. My son who has a Ph.D. in Mechanical Engineering was shocked to discover that same thing when as a Ph.D. student he taught 4th year Mechanical Engineering elective taking students Finite Element Analysis at a top 20 in the world University. He had 25 students taking the course for a quarter, circa 9 weeks. The first week he discovered that many of the students did not have the math or engineering background sufficient to do the work. He told his advisor in the department who was overseeing his teaching of the course that he planned to spend at least a week giving a math and physics review to refresh the class so that they could &#8220;catch up&#8221; so as to do the work. His advisor said to him: &#8220;They had their chance. Your job is to teach the course on Finite Element Analysis not waste a week of the quarter of those who can do the work.&#8221; My son taught the course and many of the students failed or got low grades as he expected. These were bright kids but even they forgot much of what they had been taught and passed in the previous three years. I have some hypotheses on this but now is not the time to go into it other than to say that it is IQ related and lack of drill/problem solving/writing is involved. </p>
<p>Dan Kurt</p>
<p>*Assuming public education needs to saved.</p>
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		<title>By: Ross</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Aug 2013 00:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Legionnaire, it would be interesting to hear more about that, either as anecdote, or via pointer to other&#039;s stories or studies.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Legionnaire, it would be interesting to hear more about that, either as anecdote, or via pointer to other&#8217;s stories or studies.</p>
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		<title>By: Legionnaire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Legionnaire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Aug 2013 20:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have a good friend who did &quot;Teach for America&quot;.  Years of debate with me never once managed to get her to believe in eugenics.

Her two year stint did.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a good friend who did &#8220;Teach for America&#8221;.  Years of debate with me never once managed to get her to believe in eugenics.</p>
<p>Her two year stint did.</p>
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		<title>By: Isegoria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Isegoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Aug 2013 14:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The next stage is &lt;em&gt;acceptance&lt;/em&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The next stage is <em>acceptance</em>.</p>
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		<title>By: Stevie the K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stevie the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Aug 2013 14:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So what&#039;s step 3?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what&#8217;s step 3?</p>
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