Comments on: Dietary Fructose Causes Liver Damage in Monkeys

By: Steve Johnson

Steve Johnson — Wed, 26 Jun 2013 15:54:52 +0000

Excellent post at the link which cuts right to the heart of the confusion of the experiment discussed in this post.

By: Isegoria

Isegoria — Wed, 26 Jun 2013 12:39:20 +0000

One might say there is no such thing as a macronutrient.

By: Steve Johnson

Steve Johnson — Wed, 26 Jun 2013 04:13:19 +0000

Mainstream nutrition theory is so far from reality that the experiments it designs don’t have any value at all.

Problems with this experiment:

1) “Fat” isn’t just one thing.
2) Proteins aren’t interchangeable; they’re freaking complex chemicals that have effects when ingested.
3) “Eggs” aren’t just one thing. Were they fed real eggs or spray dried reconstituted eggs? Eggs from pastured chickens? These things change the makeup of the egg. An “egg” isn’t an interchangeable thing.
4) “Complex carbs” aren’t a thing either. Were they wheat? Wheat has all sorts of effects that cause autoimmune reactions.

Basically their model is so far off that they can’t even build an experiment because the assumptions are so bad.

By: Isegoria

Isegoria — Tue, 25 Jun 2013 22:22:57 +0000

Yeah, it's a bit odd to compare flour, butter, pork fat, eggs and fructose against complex carbs and soy protein and conclude that the difference came down to fructose. I found it odd that monkeys had any trouble with fructose, since they're known for eating fruit.

By: Eric Crampton (@EricCrampton)

Eric Crampton (@EricCrampton) — Tue, 25 Jun 2013 22:02:38 +0000

But if they were trying to isolate the effects of fructose, why did treatment and control vary in diets so broadly in the last bit?