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	<title>Comments on: A Neglected but Significant Anniversary</title>
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		<title>By: Space Nookie</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2013/05/a-neglected-but-significant-anniversary/comment-page-1/#comment-860575</link>
		<dc:creator>Space Nookie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 21:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[See &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_offensive_plans_controversy&quot;&gt;Soviet offensive plans controversy&lt;/a&gt; for a better article that doesn&#039;t appeal to consensus.  

What is controversial about Suvorov is that he claims Stalin intended to attack on July 6, and that consequently Hitler&#039;s June 22 invasion was justifiable as a preemptive strike.  He makes other claims with a stronger factual basis, and it does leave you wondering why, exactly, Stalin had built such a powerful (on paper) army if it wasn&#039;t for defensive purposes.

Organizations miss deadlines all the time; it&#039;s very plausible that Stalin could have wanted to attack on July 2 and the Red Army would be unready on June 22.  I don&#039;t find that a persuasive counter argument.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_offensive_plans_controversy">Soviet offensive plans controversy</a> for a better article that doesn&#8217;t appeal to consensus.  </p>
<p>What is controversial about Suvorov is that he claims Stalin intended to attack on July 6, and that consequently Hitler&#8217;s June 22 invasion was justifiable as a preemptive strike.  He makes other claims with a stronger factual basis, and it does leave you wondering why, exactly, Stalin had built such a powerful (on paper) army if it wasn&#8217;t for defensive purposes.</p>
<p>Organizations miss deadlines all the time; it&#8217;s very plausible that Stalin could have wanted to attack on July 2 and the Red Army would be unready on June 22.  I don&#8217;t find that a persuasive counter argument.</p>
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		<title>By: Isegoria</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2013/05/a-neglected-but-significant-anniversary/comment-page-1/#comment-860392</link>
		<dc:creator>Isegoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 16:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icebreaker_(Suvorov)&quot;&gt;consensus&lt;/a&gt;, for what it&#039;s worth, seems to be that &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Suvorov&quot;&gt;Suvorov&lt;/a&gt; overstates Stalin&#039;s ability to launch an attack in 1941.  That said, I have trouble imagining Stalin simply standing by as Germany wore itself down on the Western Front.  The Allies would practically demand his entry, after all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icebreaker_(Suvorov)">consensus</a>, for what it&#8217;s worth, seems to be that <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Suvorov">Suvorov</a> overstates Stalin&#8217;s ability to launch an attack in 1941.  That said, I have trouble imagining Stalin simply standing by as Germany wore itself down on the Western Front.  The Allies would practically demand his entry, after all.</p>
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		<title>By: Space Nookie</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2013/05/a-neglected-but-significant-anniversary/comment-page-1/#comment-860322</link>
		<dc:creator>Space Nookie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 15:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is a 1987 book, &lt;cite&gt;Icebreaker&lt;/cite&gt;, by Viktor Suvorov, that goes into great detail about Stalin&#039;s preparations for an attack on western Europe.  Suvorov argues that Stalin intended for France and Germany to exhaust themselves in mutual combat &#8212; after which he would intervene.  I find that a lot more plausible than the standard narrative where Stalin is basically neutral and disinterested until Hitler attacks him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a 1987 book, <cite>Icebreaker</cite>, by Viktor Suvorov, that goes into great detail about Stalin&#8217;s preparations for an attack on western Europe.  Suvorov argues that Stalin intended for France and Germany to exhaust themselves in mutual combat &mdash; after which he would intervene.  I find that a lot more plausible than the standard narrative where Stalin is basically neutral and disinterested until Hitler attacks him.</p>
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		<title>By: Isegoria</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2013/05/a-neglected-but-significant-anniversary/comment-page-1/#comment-859367</link>
		<dc:creator>Isegoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 03:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If the French and British forces held out against the initial German offensive, couldn&#039;t we expect the Russians to open up the Eastern Front?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the French and British forces held out against the initial German offensive, couldn&#8217;t we expect the Russians to open up the Eastern Front?</p>
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		<title>By: Erich Schwarz</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2013/05/a-neglected-but-significant-anniversary/comment-page-1/#comment-859310</link>
		<dc:creator>Erich Schwarz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 02:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I’m not sure why there would have been no Communist takeover of Eastern Europe...&quot;

If France and Britain had managed to turn the tide of the war before Hitler invaded the USSR, then the final borders of Soviet control would have looked like &lt;a href=&quot;http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Second_world_war_europe_1940_map_de.png&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; rather than &lt;a href=&quot;http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Second_world_war_europe_1943-1945_map_en.png&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;.

That&#039;s why.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’m not sure why there would have been no Communist takeover of Eastern Europe&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>If France and Britain had managed to turn the tide of the war before Hitler invaded the USSR, then the final borders of Soviet control would have looked like <a href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Second_world_war_europe_1940_map_de.png">this</a> rather than <a href="http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Second_world_war_europe_1943-1945_map_en.png">this</a>.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why.</p>
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