Comments on: The Weight of the Nation https://www.isegoria.net/2012/05/the-weight-of-the-nation/ From the ancient Greek for equality in freedom of speech; an eclectic mix of thoughts, large and small Thu, 06 Aug 2026 11:09:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.6.1 By: Wobbly https://www.isegoria.net/2012/05/the-weight-of-the-nation/comment-page-1/#comment-524945 Wobbly Thu, 14 Jun 2012 16:02:01 +0000 http://www.isegoria.net/?p=29113#comment-524945 Dalrymple satirizes this attitude with respect to female soccer.

]]> By: Wobbly https://www.isegoria.net/2012/05/the-weight-of-the-nation/comment-page-1/#comment-512453 Wobbly Mon, 28 May 2012 06:42:57 +0000 http://www.isegoria.net/?p=29113#comment-512453 Thanks. I hadn’t seen anti-obesity in the same light as anti-smoking and anti-drinking, but it is looking more similar these days. Soda tax isn’t far from minimum unit pricing for alcohol in both method and who it hurts (i.e. poorer folk).

Maybe there’s a simple analysis for these antis where we can compare patterns of behaviour in the prohibitionists? What characteristics are shared or not between abortion, obesity, smoking, meat-eating, bottle-feeding, drinking, porn and so on.

[Gotta spend the day fluffing hay so I'll have something to ponder in the tractor seat.]

]]> By: Isegoria https://www.isegoria.net/2012/05/the-weight-of-the-nation/comment-page-1/#comment-512220 Isegoria Sun, 27 May 2012 23:32:28 +0000 http://www.isegoria.net/?p=29113#comment-512220 As Faze noted, there’s no “we” here, and the experts’ use of the first-person plural struck me as terribly forced. They were clearly discussing other people from far outside their social class.

HBO’s conclusion was the conclusion of the experts: we need more funding for anti-obesity efforts, because we have a problem that’s afflicting our children!

What was odd was the juxtaposition of simple advice — don’t drink sugary drinks, limit your portions, get some exercise — with the message of powerlessness. We can predict your weight from your zip code. The Mexican kids in Santa Ana, California are overweight because of the lack of parks in their neighborhood. Etc.

]]> By: Faze https://www.isegoria.net/2012/05/the-weight-of-the-nation/comment-page-1/#comment-511458 Faze Sat, 26 May 2012 22:08:17 +0000 http://www.isegoria.net/?p=29113#comment-511458 I think what he’s saying is that there’s no “we” here, these people themselves have to do something about their obesity. In other words, “you have to lose some weight, buddy. And don’t expect the community to pay for it.”

]]> By: Wobbly https://www.isegoria.net/2012/05/the-weight-of-the-nation/comment-page-1/#comment-511250 Wobbly Sat, 26 May 2012 19:04:27 +0000 http://www.isegoria.net/?p=29113#comment-511250 Can you explain a little more? I think you mean these are kinda like anti-alcohol prohibitionists but who are on a do-gooder mission to eliminate obesity, but I am not sure.

I’d love to know what conclusions HBO comes up with given the diverse array of ‘expert’ opinion out there. The only name I recognized was Lustig.

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