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	<title>Comments on: Three Logicians Walk into a Bar</title>
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		<title>By: Alrenous</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2011/10/three-logicians-walk-into-a-bar/comment-page-1/#comment-359252</link>
		<dc:creator>Alrenous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2011 05:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A fair excuse, one of my own favourites. I basically spend all day trying to teach myself to logic better, and I still make that exact interpretation mistake.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A fair excuse, one of my own favourites. I basically spend all day trying to teach myself to logic better, and I still make that exact interpretation mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: Doctor Pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doctor Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2011 11:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your much more detailed explanation was exactly what I had worked out. I guess I just didn&#039;t read your hint closely enough. I didn&#039;t interpret &quot;deny&quot; adequately.

Explanation for my lack of understanding: it was past my bedtime.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your much more detailed explanation was exactly what I had worked out. I guess I just didn&#8217;t read your hint closely enough. I didn&#8217;t interpret &#8220;deny&#8221; adequately.</p>
<p>Explanation for my lack of understanding: it was past my bedtime.</p>
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		<title>By: Alrenous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alrenous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2011 17:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Blonde: If I didn&#039;t want a beer, I could conclude that not-everyone wants a beer. I don&#039;t know what Raven and Brunette want, however.

Raven: I likewise, cannot conclude that not-everyone wants a beer. 

Brunette: Nobody else could safely conclude that at least one person wants no beer. I want a beer. That means nobody can confirm that a person wants no beer. That means nobody wants no beer. That means everyone wants a beer. 
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How much of this is new to you? If none of it is, how did you not get the explanation? If some of it is, what joke did you get? 

If only I could do this in real life. Sadly this would require people to be straightforwardly logical, and that would require sociality not to reward deception. 

Counterpoint: if you understand the logic of deception, you &lt;em&gt;can&lt;/em&gt; do this kind of thing in real life. The results are depressing, though, precisely because of what they&#039;re effective at.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Blonde: If I didn&#8217;t want a beer, I could conclude that not-everyone wants a beer. I don&#8217;t know what Raven and Brunette want, however.</p>
<p>Raven: I likewise, cannot conclude that not-everyone wants a beer. </p>
<p>Brunette: Nobody else could safely conclude that at least one person wants no beer. I want a beer. That means nobody can confirm that a person wants no beer. That means nobody wants no beer. That means everyone wants a beer.
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<p>How much of this is new to you? If none of it is, how did you not get the explanation? If some of it is, what joke did you get? </p>
<p>If only I could do this in real life. Sadly this would require people to be straightforwardly logical, and that would require sociality not to reward deception. </p>
<p>Counterpoint: if you understand the logic of deception, you <em>can</em> do this kind of thing in real life. The results are depressing, though, precisely because of what they&#8217;re effective at.</p>
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		<title>By: Doctor Pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doctor Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Oct 2011 12:26:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I understood the original joke, it took me about 10 seconds.

But I must admit I did not understand your explanation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understood the original joke, it took me about 10 seconds.</p>
<p>But I must admit I did not understand your explanation.</p>
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