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	<title>Comments on: How the modern day tomato came to be</title>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2011/09/how-the-modern-day-tomato-came-to-be/comment-page-1/#comment-347482</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2011 12:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hippocratic Thought Experiment: replace the word &quot;taste&quot; in Red&#039;s comment with &quot;health benefit&quot;. Discuss.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hippocratic Thought Experiment: replace the word &#8220;taste&#8221; in Red&#8217;s comment with &#8220;health benefit&#8221;. Discuss.</p>
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		<title>By: Red</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2011/09/how-the-modern-day-tomato-came-to-be/comment-page-1/#comment-347340</link>
		<dc:creator>Red</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2011 07:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I didn&#039;t realize they had a taste!  They&#039;ve always been tasteless objects as long as I can remember.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t realize they had a taste!  They&#8217;ve always been tasteless objects as long as I can remember.</p>
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		<title>By: BC</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2011/09/how-the-modern-day-tomato-came-to-be/comment-page-1/#comment-347305</link>
		<dc:creator>BC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2011 06:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is a market segment that will pay for taste. That specific farmer does not sell to that market. He sells to a wholesaler who pays for yield. 

Properly ripened, tasty tomatoes of old-school variety don&#039;t travel well and this drives the cost way up. 

This commenter is lucky he lives in a place with phenomenal local food.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a market segment that will pay for taste. That specific farmer does not sell to that market. He sells to a wholesaler who pays for yield. </p>
<p>Properly ripened, tasty tomatoes of old-school variety don&#8217;t travel well and this drives the cost way up. </p>
<p>This commenter is lucky he lives in a place with phenomenal local food.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2011 04:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perhaps they mix flavorful tomatoes in with the crap, so that the buyer is unable to distinguish them. There should eventually be a market for “real tasting tomatoes” but it will be a small market.

People are stupid. That’s how wealth is distributed in a market system in which the masses are not supervised or guided by superior influences.

Wealth flows from the dumb to the smart. It’s not more ethical than a society in which the physically weak are exploited by the physically strong. Just different ethics.

In a literate society, with the equalizing agent of projectile weapons (gunpowder democratized violence as printing democratized literacy), the apologists for the latter system of ethics will win out in the intellectual arena, and enforce their ascendancy with hired muscle.

The type(s) of man this system of ethics breeds over generations is the modern American consumer, equal part wage-slave and obese consumer of garbage, cultural, nutritional, etc…

He has no adult supervision or protection afforded him. His intellectual superiors are his exploiters rather than his guardians.

Contrast with the type bred in traditional societies with a physically and intellectually dominant class.

Inequality will always exist, the question is how it will be expressed, manifested, organized… the ultimate judge must in the end be aesthetic. Which human is desired. EBT card swiping McDonald&#039;s consumers, living alternately in chronic unemployment or hopping around in the global rat race. Exploited by advertising, marketing, and so on….

Or a society with a genuine ruling class and a sovereign state, which allows its dependents human dignity, social stability, a normal family life, perhaps a little religion…]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps they mix flavorful tomatoes in with the crap, so that the buyer is unable to distinguish them. There should eventually be a market for “real tasting tomatoes” but it will be a small market.</p>
<p>People are stupid. That’s how wealth is distributed in a market system in which the masses are not supervised or guided by superior influences.</p>
<p>Wealth flows from the dumb to the smart. It’s not more ethical than a society in which the physically weak are exploited by the physically strong. Just different ethics.</p>
<p>In a literate society, with the equalizing agent of projectile weapons (gunpowder democratized violence as printing democratized literacy), the apologists for the latter system of ethics will win out in the intellectual arena, and enforce their ascendancy with hired muscle.</p>
<p>The type(s) of man this system of ethics breeds over generations is the modern American consumer, equal part wage-slave and obese consumer of garbage, cultural, nutritional, etc…</p>
<p>He has no adult supervision or protection afforded him. His intellectual superiors are his exploiters rather than his guardians.</p>
<p>Contrast with the type bred in traditional societies with a physically and intellectually dominant class.</p>
<p>Inequality will always exist, the question is how it will be expressed, manifested, organized… the ultimate judge must in the end be aesthetic. Which human is desired. EBT card swiping McDonald&#8217;s consumers, living alternately in chronic unemployment or hopping around in the global rat race. Exploited by advertising, marketing, and so on….</p>
<p>Or a society with a genuine ruling class and a sovereign state, which allows its dependents human dignity, social stability, a normal family life, perhaps a little religion…</p>
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