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	<title>Comments on: The Most Supervised Generation</title>
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		<title>By: Isegoria</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2011/06/the-most-supervised-generation/comment-page-1/#comment-233955</link>
		<dc:creator>Isegoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2011 16:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you meet up with the other neighborhood kids at the local park or vacant lot and organize a pick-up ball game, have you been an active participant in civil society?  Yes, certainly &#8212; and arguably more so than if you showed up, ferried by Mom, to the soccer practice she signed you up for.  I think there&#039;s plenty good that can come from formal instruction in the form of classes and practices, but the concern is that modern upper-middle-class kids get released into the real world with zero experience structuring their own lives.  They go where adults take them and do what adults tell them to do, all under adult supervision, with adults adjudicating any disputes.  If anything, these upper-middle-class university-bound kids are the kids who should be given more responsibility earlier.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you meet up with the other neighborhood kids at the local park or vacant lot and organize a pick-up ball game, have you been an active participant in civil society?  Yes, certainly &mdash; and arguably more so than if you showed up, ferried by Mom, to the soccer practice she signed you up for.  I think there&#8217;s plenty good that can come from formal instruction in the form of classes and practices, but the concern is that modern upper-middle-class kids get released into the real world with zero experience structuring their own lives.  They go where adults take them and do what adults tell them to do, all under adult supervision, with adults adjudicating any disputes.  If anything, these upper-middle-class university-bound kids are the kids who should be given more responsibility earlier.</p>
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		<title>By: Dregs</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2011/06/the-most-supervised-generation/comment-page-1/#comment-233073</link>
		<dc:creator>Dregs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jun 2011 04:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t really buy Brook&#039;s argument.  First of all, as a columnist, he needs to exaggerate or at least slightly overemphasize the point he is trying to make.  My main objections are:

1. When he writes that many of these kids have lived &quot;highly structured lives&quot;, that is another way of saying they have been active participants in civil society: soccer leagues, art classes, school newspaper, internships, etc.  Whether or not they were &quot;nudged&quot; (or coerced) by their parents to do these things, the fact is they now have a lot of experience in a wide range of activities, have seen how well-managed non-governmental organizations can exist, thrive and contribute to a richer live.  Well, many kids who have spent years doing those things will: (1) be more likely to know how to run and lead such organizations, (2) have wide interests, curious minds and flexibility about the possibility of doing many things, (3) as a result of 1 and 2 may also be more entrepreneurial.  Will there be some kids who were essentially lemmings, just doing it because they were told to but who did not get much out of it? Sure, but I would say the benefit outweighs the harm on balance.  (And anyway, what harm has there actually been?  It seems to me for righ-side of the bell curve people, it is much more challenging to go from an UNstructured live to a structured life than the other way around.)

2. Brooks also underestimates the power of individual predilection and inborn nature.  People who are self-starters, are self-starters; people who are not, are not.  To a great extent this is difficult to alter in people.  So whether your childhood was structured, unstructured or whatever, it will only marginally impact your personality and style.  (If this sounds like it contradicts point 1 above, consider point 1 as the &quot;nurture&quot; part, and this point as the &quot;nature&quot; part.)

3. As for kids having been bred on Baby Boomer optimism and high expectations, my sense is that most people of the younger generation are not stupid. They see the writing on the wall, they know the score, and they realize that the future is highly uncertain and in flux.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t really buy Brook&#8217;s argument.  First of all, as a columnist, he needs to exaggerate or at least slightly overemphasize the point he is trying to make.  My main objections are:</p>
<p>1. When he writes that many of these kids have lived &#8220;highly structured lives&#8221;, that is another way of saying they have been active participants in civil society: soccer leagues, art classes, school newspaper, internships, etc.  Whether or not they were &#8220;nudged&#8221; (or coerced) by their parents to do these things, the fact is they now have a lot of experience in a wide range of activities, have seen how well-managed non-governmental organizations can exist, thrive and contribute to a richer live.  Well, many kids who have spent years doing those things will: (1) be more likely to know how to run and lead such organizations, (2) have wide interests, curious minds and flexibility about the possibility of doing many things, (3) as a result of 1 and 2 may also be more entrepreneurial.  Will there be some kids who were essentially lemmings, just doing it because they were told to but who did not get much out of it? Sure, but I would say the benefit outweighs the harm on balance.  (And anyway, what harm has there actually been?  It seems to me for righ-side of the bell curve people, it is much more challenging to go from an UNstructured live to a structured life than the other way around.)</p>
<p>2. Brooks also underestimates the power of individual predilection and inborn nature.  People who are self-starters, are self-starters; people who are not, are not.  To a great extent this is difficult to alter in people.  So whether your childhood was structured, unstructured or whatever, it will only marginally impact your personality and style.  (If this sounds like it contradicts point 1 above, consider point 1 as the &#8220;nurture&#8221; part, and this point as the &#8220;nature&#8221; part.)</p>
<p>3. As for kids having been bred on Baby Boomer optimism and high expectations, my sense is that most people of the younger generation are not stupid. They see the writing on the wall, they know the score, and they realize that the future is highly uncertain and in flux.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Charlton</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2011/06/the-most-supervised-generation/comment-page-1/#comment-232046</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Charlton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2011 17:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The years between about 22 and getting married seemed like &#039;fun&#039; at the time, albeit rather desperate fun; in retrospect they were bleak and empty years of constantly seeking distractions. 

Humans are not designed for perpetual adolescence, but they can become addicted to it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The years between about 22 and getting married seemed like &#8216;fun&#8217; at the time, albeit rather desperate fun; in retrospect they were bleak and empty years of constantly seeking distractions. </p>
<p>Humans are not designed for perpetual adolescence, but they can become addicted to it.</p>
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