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	<title>Comments on: Detroit Implodes</title>
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		<title>By: Stevie the K</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2011/04/detroit-implodes/comment-page-1/#comment-155405</link>
		<dc:creator>Stevie the K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2011 18:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;American Cities, which I assume in a generation will be like the favelas of Brazil, places the police won’t even go.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Or like Paris and its &lt;em&gt;banlieues&lt;/em&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;American Cities, which I assume in a generation will be like the favelas of Brazil, places the police won’t even go.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Or like Paris and its <em>banlieues</em>.</p>
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		<title>By: Retardo</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2011/04/detroit-implodes/comment-page-1/#comment-154515</link>
		<dc:creator>Retardo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2011 14:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But not Philly... those poor bastards.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But not Philly&#8230; those poor bastards.</p>
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		<title>By: Retardo</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2011/04/detroit-implodes/comment-page-1/#comment-154514</link>
		<dc:creator>Retardo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Apr 2011 14:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[True. Boston has bounced back amazingly, too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True. Boston has bounced back amazingly, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Isegoria</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2011/04/detroit-implodes/comment-page-1/#comment-154089</link>
		<dc:creator>Isegoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2011 20:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t believe all of our cities have been in strict, monotonic decline though.  So some cities were able to undo at least some of the damage of the 1960s and &#039;70s.  &lt;cite&gt;Escape from New York&lt;/cite&gt; no longer seems prophetic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t believe all of our cities have been in strict, monotonic decline though.  So some cities were able to undo at least some of the damage of the 1960s and &#8217;70s.  <cite>Escape from New York</cite> no longer seems prophetic.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Dravot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Dravot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2011 18:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Naturally, the degree matters. As I said, we need to know more. I&#039;d also like to hear more about the politics of non-dangerous cities. 

He&#039;s more convincing when he writes,

&lt;blockquote&gt;...most dangerous big US cities are strongly Democratic&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, now he&#039;s talking about a correlation. 

I happen to think he&#039;s right, and you&#039;re right. I think the more we dig up the numbers, the more detail we get into, the more that will become apparent. I don&#039;t like people saying stuff that isn&#039;t reasonably robust. 

But when he starts talking about the Democrats, I start thinking &quot;Oh, is that supposed to mean the GOP&#039;s going to fix it? Who, Huckabee? Romney?&quot; 

But I guess it may no longer matter what you say, or who you say it to. Our political class will deny there are any problems as long as they can draw breath. The people will demand ever more handouts as things get worse, because the creation of handouts is simple enough for them to understand, while the creation of goods and services and jobs is utterly mysterious to them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Naturally, the degree matters. As I said, we need to know more. I&#8217;d also like to hear more about the politics of non-dangerous cities. </p>
<p>He&#8217;s more convincing when he writes,</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;most dangerous big US cities are strongly Democratic</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, now he&#8217;s talking about a correlation. </p>
<p>I happen to think he&#8217;s right, and you&#8217;re right. I think the more we dig up the numbers, the more detail we get into, the more that will become apparent. I don&#8217;t like people saying stuff that isn&#8217;t reasonably robust. </p>
<p>But when he starts talking about the Democrats, I start thinking &#8220;Oh, is that supposed to mean the GOP&#8217;s going to fix it? Who, Huckabee? Romney?&#8221; </p>
<p>But I guess it may no longer matter what you say, or who you say it to. Our political class will deny there are any problems as long as they can draw breath. The people will demand ever more handouts as things get worse, because the creation of handouts is simple enough for them to understand, while the creation of goods and services and jobs is utterly mysterious to them.</p>
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		<title>By: Isegoria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Isegoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2011 16:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When Falkenstein says that 5 of the 10 cities with the highest poverty rates have had a Democratic stranglehold since at least 1961, he&#039;s not saying that they simply sway left rather than right; the degree matters.

(And, yeah, he makes spelling errors.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Falkenstein says that 5 of the 10 cities with the highest poverty rates have had a Democratic stranglehold since at least 1961, he&#8217;s not saying that they simply sway left rather than right; the degree matters.</p>
<p>(And, yeah, he makes spelling errors.)</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Dravot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Dravot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2011 14:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Five of the 10 cities with the highest poverty rates (Detroit, Buffalo, St. Louis, Milwaukee, Philadelphia and Newark) have had a Democratic stranglehold since at least 1961&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So between two options, a given effect is observed about equally with both? He hasn&#039;t told us anything, until he tells us a lot more about those other five cities. 

He&#039;s on much firmer ground when he talks about the causes in detail. Even so, the rot is much too deep for local politics to be the answer, and probably too deep for national politics either. 

Also, s/straights/straits/.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;Five of the 10 cities with the highest poverty rates (Detroit, Buffalo, St. Louis, Milwaukee, Philadelphia and Newark) have had a Democratic stranglehold since at least 1961&#8243;</p></blockquote>
<p>So between two options, a given effect is observed about equally with both? He hasn&#8217;t told us anything, until he tells us a lot more about those other five cities. </p>
<p>He&#8217;s on much firmer ground when he talks about the causes in detail. Even so, the rot is much too deep for local politics to be the answer, and probably too deep for national politics either. </p>
<p>Also, s/straights/straits/.</p>
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