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		<title>By: Isegoria</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2010/12/posturing/comment-page-1/#comment-59236</link>
		<dc:creator>Isegoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Dec 2010 19:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Elaborate threat displays are used by almost everyone going face to face with an enemy.  Even the Spartans, who despised many outward displays of false courage, went into battle with polished armor, high-crested helmets, etc.  Modern, professional armies are extremely unusual in their disregard for intimidation &#8212; and it doesn&#039;t always work in their favor.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elaborate threat displays are used by almost everyone going face to face with an enemy.  Even the Spartans, who despised many outward displays of false courage, went into battle with polished armor, high-crested helmets, etc.  Modern, professional armies are extremely unusual in their disregard for intimidation &mdash; and it doesn&#8217;t always work in their favor.</p>
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		<title>By: Isegoria</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2010/12/posturing/comment-page-1/#comment-59234</link>
		<dc:creator>Isegoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Dec 2010 18:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Indeed, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.isegoria.net/2003/10/infantry-missile-weapons-in-the-renaissance/&quot;&gt;early firearms had many disadvantages&lt;/a&gt; compared to bows and crossbows: shorter range, worse accuracy, and slower rate of &quot;fire&quot;.

They had their strengths, too: firearm ammo is small and light, bullets punch through armor well, and a thunderous volley of fire really shocks and awes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed, <a href="http://www.isegoria.net/2003/10/infantry-missile-weapons-in-the-renaissance/">early firearms had many disadvantages</a> compared to bows and crossbows: shorter range, worse accuracy, and slower rate of &#8220;fire&#8221;.</p>
<p>They had their strengths, too: firearm ammo is small and light, bullets punch through armor well, and a thunderous volley of fire really shocks and awes.</p>
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		<title>By: David Foster</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Foster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Dec 2010 16:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Early guns had several disadvantages relative to bows and arrows &#8212; inability to re-use ammunition, for one thing. Perhaps the noise made up for the disadvantage.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Early guns had several disadvantages relative to bows and arrows &mdash; inability to re-use ammunition, for one thing. Perhaps the noise made up for the disadvantage.</p>
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		<title>By: Baduin</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2010/12/posturing/comment-page-1/#comment-59102</link>
		<dc:creator>Baduin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Dec 2010 14:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Elaborate threat displays are used by those not brave enough to attack directly. This is the African combat: two groups of people throwing spears at each other, yelling insults etc. Both groups are afraid to charge forward &#8212; because they have no cohesion. Zulus were an exception.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elaborate threat displays are used by those not brave enough to attack directly. This is the African combat: two groups of people throwing spears at each other, yelling insults etc. Both groups are afraid to charge forward &mdash; because they have no cohesion. Zulus were an exception.</p>
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		<title>By: Isegoria</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2010/12/posturing/comment-page-1/#comment-57518</link>
		<dc:creator>Isegoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2010 13:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not sure where we disagree, Bruce.  I don&#039;t disagree with what you just added.  Do you disagree with the notion that elaborate threat displays scare men about to face combat?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure where we disagree, Bruce.  I don&#8217;t disagree with what you just added.  Do you disagree with the notion that elaborate threat displays scare men about to face combat?</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce G Charlton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce G Charlton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2010 10:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t find this reasoning at all convincing!

There is a shred of truth embedded; which is that army training is more about stopping your soldiers from running away, than training them to attack or kill; and about getting people to work as a mutually-assisting unit rather than a collection of self-interested individuals. Once cohesion is achieved, only then do tactics become important. 

Marching shoulder to shoulder etc is an unfake-able demonstration of unity and cohesion &#8212; only a disciplined army can do it. In face of this, an individual soldier must have confidence that he is also part of a solid group. But if he is not, and soldiers do not trust each other; then each individual soldier realizes that a rabble cannot fight a disciplined force; and the incentive is to save one&#039;s own skin and be among the first to run-away before the inevitable rout begins. 

People are killed in retreats because each is out for himself. By contrast, the army that provoked the retreat is usually still functioning as a cohesive unit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t find this reasoning at all convincing!</p>
<p>There is a shred of truth embedded; which is that army training is more about stopping your soldiers from running away, than training them to attack or kill; and about getting people to work as a mutually-assisting unit rather than a collection of self-interested individuals. Once cohesion is achieved, only then do tactics become important. </p>
<p>Marching shoulder to shoulder etc is an unfake-able demonstration of unity and cohesion &mdash; only a disciplined army can do it. In face of this, an individual soldier must have confidence that he is also part of a solid group. But if he is not, and soldiers do not trust each other; then each individual soldier realizes that a rabble cannot fight a disciplined force; and the incentive is to save one&#8217;s own skin and be among the first to run-away before the inevitable rout begins. </p>
<p>People are killed in retreats because each is out for himself. By contrast, the army that provoked the retreat is usually still functioning as a cohesive unit.</p>
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		<title>By: Isegoria</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2010/12/posturing/comment-page-1/#comment-57254</link>
		<dc:creator>Isegoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2010 06:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Those might have been &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.quackenbushairguns.com/&quot;&gt;Quackenbush Air Guns&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those might have been <a href="http://www.quackenbushairguns.com/">Quackenbush Air Guns</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Jehu</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2010/12/posturing/comment-page-1/#comment-57104</link>
		<dc:creator>Jehu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Dec 2010 23:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Isegoria,

At the last gun show I went to, I saw some very sweet modern air rifles in the near .50 cal range, sufficient for taking buffalo.  Pretty nice, I&#039;ve got to say.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isegoria,</p>
<p>At the last gun show I went to, I saw some very sweet modern air rifles in the near .50 cal range, sufficient for taking buffalo.  Pretty nice, I&#8217;ve got to say.</p>
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