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		<title>By: Jehu</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2010/11/black-students-even-worse-than-expected/comment-page-1/#comment-47288</link>
		<dc:creator>Jehu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Nov 2010 22:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Welfare is really bad for the functionality of black families.  But I won&#039;t pretend that&#039;s my primary reason for opposing it.  My main motivation for being against welfare is that it is bad for the fundamental interest of my group (demographic hegemony) because it represents a transfer of fertility between groups.  Within groups, it is a fertility transfer between the solid provider types and the types favored for short term relationships and flings, because it reduces the cost to women for gratifying that side of their nature.

Diversity is a bad thing, it destroys community and it makes shared norms pretty much impossible.  Even in areas like my own that have very little of the type of diversity that is actively dangerous (i.e., lots of NAMs), it still sucks because it creates neighborhoods that are nothing like the communities where most of us grew up &#8212; they aren&#039;t even neighborhoods, just collections of atomized nuclear families.  Walk around outside sometime, and count the number of people that you see out and about in such a neighborhood.  Then compare what google&#039;s stats will tell you about how many people actually live there.  Even a significantly introverted person like myself is bothered by this, it isn&#039;t the way that human beings are designed to live.  Putnam&#039;s work has the same observation if you prefer not to trust your own lying eyes or mine.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welfare is really bad for the functionality of black families.  But I won&#8217;t pretend that&#8217;s my primary reason for opposing it.  My main motivation for being against welfare is that it is bad for the fundamental interest of my group (demographic hegemony) because it represents a transfer of fertility between groups.  Within groups, it is a fertility transfer between the solid provider types and the types favored for short term relationships and flings, because it reduces the cost to women for gratifying that side of their nature.</p>
<p>Diversity is a bad thing, it destroys community and it makes shared norms pretty much impossible.  Even in areas like my own that have very little of the type of diversity that is actively dangerous (i.e., lots of NAMs), it still sucks because it creates neighborhoods that are nothing like the communities where most of us grew up &mdash; they aren&#8217;t even neighborhoods, just collections of atomized nuclear families.  Walk around outside sometime, and count the number of people that you see out and about in such a neighborhood.  Then compare what google&#8217;s stats will tell you about how many people actually live there.  Even a significantly introverted person like myself is bothered by this, it isn&#8217;t the way that human beings are designed to live.  Putnam&#8217;s work has the same observation if you prefer not to trust your own lying eyes or mine.</p>
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		<title>By: Eve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Nov 2010 16:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Isn&#039;t segregation happening naturally (informally) without the intervention of government mandating integration?  Where I live, the younger and more affluent (mainly white, but includes all races) live in the suburbs or rural areas, leaving behind an underclass (poverty and parental education level, or elderly without children in school). In the case of Detroit, wasn&#039;t it the plan of the first black mayor (Young) to push whites out, in effect desiring segregation?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t segregation happening naturally (informally) without the intervention of government mandating integration?  Where I live, the younger and more affluent (mainly white, but includes all races) live in the suburbs or rural areas, leaving behind an underclass (poverty and parental education level, or elderly without children in school). In the case of Detroit, wasn&#8217;t it the plan of the first black mayor (Young) to push whites out, in effect desiring segregation?</p>
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		<title>By: Isegoria</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2010/11/black-students-even-worse-than-expected/comment-page-1/#comment-47239</link>
		<dc:creator>Isegoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Nov 2010 15:39:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Are those arguments for segregation or against welfare?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are those arguments for segregation or against welfare?</p>
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		<title>By: Jehu</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2010/11/black-students-even-worse-than-expected/comment-page-1/#comment-46598</link>
		<dc:creator>Jehu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Nov 2010 22:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, it is certainly true that in the days of segregation, the black family was far more functional than presently. I believe the black illegitimacy rate in those days was smaller than the white illegitimacy rate presently. Also, if I&#039;m not mistaken, there were a lot more black entreprenuers and a lot less black people working for the government as a percentage.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it is certainly true that in the days of segregation, the black family was far more functional than presently. I believe the black illegitimacy rate in those days was smaller than the white illegitimacy rate presently. Also, if I&#8217;m not mistaken, there were a lot more black entreprenuers and a lot less black people working for the government as a percentage.</p>
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		<title>By: Isegoria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Isegoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2010 22:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Segregation worked fairly well in the past?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Segregation worked fairly well in the past?</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2010 22:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You can talk to black babies all you want, but if their average IQ lags 10-20 points below that of the whites, or even further behind east Asians, the results will not be much different from what we are experiencing today. The evolutionary paths took us in different directions, and the best we can do is to recognize that and make the proper arrangements.  Segregation worked fairly well in the past, and with a few improvements it might be a solution for the future.  Whatever we do, let&#039;s just stop arguing with Nature by fantasizing about ever getting the black population to be like the white folk.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can talk to black babies all you want, but if their average IQ lags 10-20 points below that of the whites, or even further behind east Asians, the results will not be much different from what we are experiencing today. The evolutionary paths took us in different directions, and the best we can do is to recognize that and make the proper arrangements.  Segregation worked fairly well in the past, and with a few improvements it might be a solution for the future.  Whatever we do, let&#8217;s just stop arguing with Nature by fantasizing about ever getting the black population to be like the white folk.</p>
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