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	<title>Comments on: Power grid compromised</title>
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		<title>By: Isegoria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Isegoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 15:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I had naively assumed that any modern water-supply &#8212; and sewer &#8212; system would follow the Roman model of relying on gentle gradients to effortlessly move water to and fro. Then I learned how things are really done.

As far as remote access goes, yes, they could technically provide access from afar with a dedicated line of some sort, but the goal is &lt;em&gt;convenience&lt;/em&gt;, not just &lt;em&gt;remoteness&lt;/em&gt;, so we should expect such systems to find themselves attached to the wider Net. We want to be able to administer the system from our iPhones, right?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had naively assumed that any modern water-supply &mdash; and sewer &mdash; system would follow the Roman model of relying on gentle gradients to effortlessly move water to and fro. Then I learned how things are really done.</p>
<p>As far as remote access goes, yes, they could technically provide access from afar with a dedicated line of some sort, but the goal is <em>convenience</em>, not just <em>remoteness</em>, so we should expect such systems to find themselves attached to the wider Net. We want to be able to administer the system from our iPhones, right?</p>
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		<title>By: David Foster</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Foster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 12:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One thing that should be of great concern is that the water-supply system is dependent on the grid. From what I&#039;ve read, the pumps are not usually backed up with generators (which would have to be pretty large given the high horsepowers required for pumping.)

Re point #3, there are ways to provide remote access to a SCADA system without involving the Internet, via a private line or a switching technology such as MPLS, readily available from phone companies.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing that should be of great concern is that the water-supply system is dependent on the grid. From what I&#8217;ve read, the pumps are not usually backed up with generators (which would have to be pretty large given the high horsepowers required for pumping.)</p>
<p>Re point #3, there are ways to provide remote access to a SCADA system without involving the Internet, via a private line or a switching technology such as MPLS, readily available from phone companies.</p>
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