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	<title>Comments on: Apple&#8217;s Darwinian Queues</title>
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		<title>By: Buckethead</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2010/06/apples-darwinian-queues/comment-page-1/#comment-5671</link>
		<dc:creator>Buckethead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 03:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kent, you got lucky.  Or I got stupid.  I waited over ten hours.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kent, you got lucky.  Or I got stupid.  I waited over ten hours.</p>
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		<title>By: Kent</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2010/06/apples-darwinian-queues/comment-page-1/#comment-5647</link>
		<dc:creator>Kent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jun 2010 22:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a day 1 adopter of the 4G, I was stunned at how long it took given that I had a reservation.  After waiting about 90 minutes, like Buckethead, I developed a perverse desire just to know how long it would take.  The answer: about 4.5 hours!  When I finally got to the front, I didn&#039;t want the sales droid to tell me how much Apple appreciated my business; I just wanted him to activate my G.D. phone as quickly as possible.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a day 1 adopter of the 4G, I was stunned at how long it took given that I had a reservation.  After waiting about 90 minutes, like Buckethead, I developed a perverse desire just to know how long it would take.  The answer: about 4.5 hours!  When I finally got to the front, I didn&#8217;t want the sales droid to tell me how much Apple appreciated my business; I just wanted him to activate my G.D. phone as quickly as possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Buckethead</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2010/06/apples-darwinian-queues/comment-page-1/#comment-5644</link>
		<dc:creator>Buckethead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jun 2010 20:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, not an accident, but from what I&#039;ve heard other stores in the area cleared out their lines a lot quicker than Fair Oaks did.  The wait here seemed completely in excess of the results of upselling, activation, and high demand we saw elsewhere.

Of course, it creates great free advertising for Apple.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, not an accident, but from what I&#8217;ve heard other stores in the area cleared out their lines a lot quicker than Fair Oaks did.  The wait here seemed completely in excess of the results of upselling, activation, and high demand we saw elsewhere.</p>
<p>Of course, it creates great free advertising for Apple.</p>
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		<title>By: Isegoria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Isegoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jun 2010 16:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was shocked last time, when we finally got to the front of the 3GS line, and the &quot;helpful&quot; sales girl took her sweet time walking us around the store, trying to chat with us about the phone, failing to up-sell us on a variety of things, etc.  The long, painful wait in line was no accident.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was shocked last time, when we finally got to the front of the 3GS line, and the &#8220;helpful&#8221; sales girl took her sweet time walking us around the store, trying to chat with us about the phone, failing to up-sell us on a variety of things, etc.  The long, painful wait in line was no accident.</p>
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		<title>By: Buckethead</title>
		<link>https://www.isegoria.net/2010/06/apples-darwinian-queues/comment-page-1/#comment-5506</link>
		<dc:creator>Buckethead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 18:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The lines at Fair Oaks Mall in VA were both better and worse.  Better in that the lines were inside an air conditioned Mall.  Worse in that they lasted longer than anywhere else I heard of.  

I was there because Apple and ATT first screwed up the pre-order process last week.  I thought that with a reservation, I could get my phone in the morning.  I waited until 1:00 to find that my reservation didn&#039;t actually exist.  They told me then that my wait time in the unreserved line would be about two hours.

So, okay.  I&#039;ll wait a little longer.  We couldn&#039;t tell from where we were, but that was a flat out lie.  At the rate they were processing people, there&#039;s no way on Earth they would have got to us in two hours.  They were favoring people in the reserved line 4 to 1 over the unreserved &#8212; and this despite the fact that people in the other line had been there on average an hour, hour and a half while some of the people in the unreserved line had been there for 8 or more.

The whole thing was tragically mismanaged.  Apple employees were dismissive of the complaints, and there was a gap between the morning rush and the arrival of people with reservations coming in after work when the backlog of people who had been there since morning could have been cleared out.

They have to activate every phone &#8212; which means that rather than swiping a credit card and handing the customer a box, they have to spend fifteen or minutes going through that process, and then trying to convince the customer to buy insurance, MobileMe, etc.  That made every thing take an order of magnitude longer.

Several of us stuck it out, almost out of a perverse desire to see how long it would take.  It took a long time.  But, I bought two, and should be able to sell the second for a handy profit &#8212; though the per hour rate is lower than I would have hoped.

Happily, there were no wolves at Fair Oaks Mall.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The lines at Fair Oaks Mall in VA were both better and worse.  Better in that the lines were inside an air conditioned Mall.  Worse in that they lasted longer than anywhere else I heard of.  </p>
<p>I was there because Apple and ATT first screwed up the pre-order process last week.  I thought that with a reservation, I could get my phone in the morning.  I waited until 1:00 to find that my reservation didn&#8217;t actually exist.  They told me then that my wait time in the unreserved line would be about two hours.</p>
<p>So, okay.  I&#8217;ll wait a little longer.  We couldn&#8217;t tell from where we were, but that was a flat out lie.  At the rate they were processing people, there&#8217;s no way on Earth they would have got to us in two hours.  They were favoring people in the reserved line 4 to 1 over the unreserved &mdash; and this despite the fact that people in the other line had been there on average an hour, hour and a half while some of the people in the unreserved line had been there for 8 or more.</p>
<p>The whole thing was tragically mismanaged.  Apple employees were dismissive of the complaints, and there was a gap between the morning rush and the arrival of people with reservations coming in after work when the backlog of people who had been there since morning could have been cleared out.</p>
<p>They have to activate every phone &mdash; which means that rather than swiping a credit card and handing the customer a box, they have to spend fifteen or minutes going through that process, and then trying to convince the customer to buy insurance, MobileMe, etc.  That made every thing take an order of magnitude longer.</p>
<p>Several of us stuck it out, almost out of a perverse desire to see how long it would take.  It took a long time.  But, I bought two, and should be able to sell the second for a handy profit &mdash; though the per hour rate is lower than I would have hoped.</p>
<p>Happily, there were no wolves at Fair Oaks Mall.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Fouche</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph Fouche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 01:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All you need is a convenient wolf pack to pick off stragglers and you&#039;d have a nice Darwin sandwich.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All you need is a convenient wolf pack to pick off stragglers and you&#8217;d have a nice Darwin sandwich.</p>
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